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Gritty results with glasses. Using rinse aid. Do I need to add salt, if so where can do I put it

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The problem is most likely that there is still water residue at the bottom of your machine. If the machine is not fully drained it picks up some of the residue and sprays that onto the dishes during the final rinse, leaving an unhealthy and unsightly film on everything.
Remove the bottom strainers plates and make sure that the outlet pipe is not kinked, that there is nothing obstructing the pipe or the pump or selector valve. If possible back flush through the outlet pipe and try draining the machine again before using it again.

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The milky water is a by-product of the wash water and rinse water mixing.

The spray are has to rotate freely or the dishes won't wash or rinse properly. They spins a lot faster than you realise and this adds pressure to the water, but also a pulsating effect to remove dirt.

Over doing the salt can cause more problems that it solves. The gritty film may indeed BE salt. I actually prefer Calgon as a softener.

My advice is to remove both top and bottom spray arms. Check the slots/holes for obstruction, and run water through them under a tap, outside to inside (the opposite to how it is in the machine) rocking the arms up and down to allow any obstructions to flush out. Lemon pips and toothpicks are out biggest problem! Put the arms back and make sure they spin freely. Sometimes they just lock up for no apparent reason!

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I do not have enough information to be able to answer with hundred percent certainty.
From my experience, the most common problem is the improper handling of the appliance. Driven by overwhelming commercials we often pass from detergent to tablets. The largest number of tablets contains rinse aid that we already have in the dispenser. Practical adding a double dose of rinse aid resulting in poor washing results and glasses look like washed in milk. The solution is to open the dispenser and put the dosage rinse aid to minimum. In electronic dishwashers new generation is even possible to completely exclude the dosage rinse aid if you are using tablets.


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This option can be selected by pressing the corresponding button, and remains in memory until the same
button is pressed again. This option modifies the phases of the programme in order to optimize performance
when "3 in 1, 5 in 1, 7 in 1, ......." detergent tablets are used:

- variation of the duration of the programme and the temperatures required to dissolve the detergent tablets.
- reduction of water exchange
- exclusion of introduction of rinse-aid
- exclusion of regeneration

If you use a dishwasher in the traditional manner (detergent, rinse aid, salt) then the Multitab function is disabled. If you use tabs that are already on the market with rinse aid and salt there is a possibility during washing cycle to add a double dose of rinse aid. From rinse aid dispenser and rinse aid from tabs. This will lead to poor cleaning results, glasses will look like they have been washed in milk..To avoid that you must turn on "Multitab" function and thus exclusion of introduction of rinse-aid from rinse aid dispenser. This function also stops the regeneration and will not spend salt because salt is already in a tabs. Also extends the washing time because tablets need more time to dissolve in relation to the traditional powder detergent.

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Dishes are coming out streaked and not properly cleaned. I have added rinse aid, salt and even descaler.


De-scaler wont wash your dishes. The simplest cause of dishes coming out unclean is over-loading, bad stacking (spray arms blocked), or using too short a programme for heavily soiled dishes.

If it's just streaky (not food remnants), you may have the rinse-aid set too low. Open the flap where you add rinse-aid and you will see a know with an arrow shaped grip. There are 5 positions for the knob marked 1 to 5. Try a higher setting (1 is low) but don't go too high as this will cause other problems. If it's on 1, try 3 and if it's on 2 or 3, try 4 or 5. You may have to adjust this a couple of times until you get satisfactory results.

Howver, If you're referring to a white powdery residue on dishes and glasses, that's an entirely different answer . . .

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If provision for dish washer salt check and add salt. ( not kitchen salt )

Finally check whether rinse aid compartment is filled with the liquid. If you are tablet, extra rinse aid not needed. Try all the above.

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The combination tablets are very convenient and do work well but you will still need to use salt and rinse aid for the best results. The reason for this is that every dishwasher has a specific time or times that it needs that chemical (rinse aid or salt) to be released. The tablets will release it but maybe not at the best times.

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hi friend,HOW TO GET THE BEST FROM YOUR DISHWASHER
Always follow the manufacturer's instructions and read the directions carefully on detergent, rinse aid and salt packaging.
Cleaning your machine about once a month will remove any grease and lime scale deposits which can build up on the inside of the machine. Special dishwasher cleaning detergents are available which are used when the machine is empty. These cleaners will often leave a fresh smell in the dishwasher too. If you want to have that fresh smell all the time, use a dishwasher freshener. These are usually supplied as hanging tags, which should be carefully positioned away from any moving arms. A freshener is essential if you load during the day and then run the machine at night.
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WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO GET THE MOST FROM MY DISHWASHER?
Cleaning your machine about once a month will remove any grease and lime scale deposits which can build up on the inside of the machine. Special dishwasher cleaners are available which are used when the machine is empty. These cleaners will often leave a fresh smell in the dishwasher too. If you want to have that fresh smell all the time, use a dishwasher freshener. These are usually supplied as hanging tags, which should be carefully positioned away from any moving arms. A freshener is essential if you load during the day and then run the machine at night.
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These items can be washed in a dishwasher, with the following guidelines:
Glassware - Any ordinary glassware and ovenware such as Pyrex. Do not wash lead crystal glasses unless they carry a "dishwasher safe" label.
Tableware - Most everyday crockery is safe. Bone china usually has under-glaze decoration and should be safe. Avoid antique or hand-painted and over-glaze decorated items. If in doubt, check with the manufacturer.
Cutlery - Stainless steel and silver cutlery are normally suitable for machine washing, but it pays to rinse off any acidic food before loading to prevent any corrosion and, if possible remove the cutlery immediately after the cycle, to avoid prolonged exposure in a humid atmosphere. Do not mix steel and silver cutlery in the same basket and wash bone or wooden-handled items by hand.
Plastics - Check whether they are dishwasher safe and do not place in the lower rack, where the heating element may affect the plastic during drying.
Pans - Stainless steel is ideal for dishwashers. aluminium can be washed in the machine, but may discolour during the rinsing. If in doubt, remove aluminium pans before the rinse cycle.
Always wash cast iron and wooden handled items by hand

WHY DOES MY MACHINE HAVE A WATER SOFTENER?
If the water is soft (i.e. does not contain calcium particles), the detergent will work more effectively and there will be less streaking on dishes. Hard water can also block the washer jets with lime scale and cause deposits on heating elements, which will reduce the cleaning efficiency, increase electricity costs and shorten the life of the machine. All dishwasher manufacturers (Bosch, Miele, Siemens) and detergent suppliers want you to get the best results from the machine - and soft water is one of the most important factors in achieving this. The way to ensure water remains soft is to regularly top up the reservoir with granular salt.
Three in one salt tablets do not activate the water softener.
HOW MUCH SALT DO I NEED TO ADD?
Your machine may have a float indicator or a warning light to tell you when salt needs adding to the water softener. Often float indicators are difficult to see, and there is no accurate guide as to how much salt you need to add. Quite simply, just add granular salt to the reservoir until it won't take any more!

The softener will use the salt to replenish itself each time you wash. As an approximate guide, you should do a full top up about once a month. If your machine doesn't have a warning light, a good way to remember to check and / or top up is to do it on a regular day of the month (e.g. the first Saturday or the 15th)
CAN I USE ORDINARY TABLE SALT?
No. Table, cooking, rock and sea salts may contain additives that can actually increase water hardness. Also, the fine consistency of some of these salts mean they are likely to clog when wet. Always use granular dishwasher salt because it is very pure and is the right consistency for use in your machine.
Granular salt is the ONLY type of salt that should be used to regenerate the softener. Be aware that some varieties of ‘dishwasher salt’ use Dead Sea salt. This variety may contain minute insoluble organic matter that may adversely affect the resin within your softener over time. If you are in doubt about the origins of the salt, ask the retailer or manufacturer.
WHAT DETERGENT SHOULD I USE?
All modern dishwasher detergents are formulated to work specifically in dishwashers. On no occasion should ordinary washing up liquid be used, as it will cause excess foam, which can result in a leak. If it is accidentally used, sprinkle ordinary salt into the chamber to disperse the resulting suds. Then rinse away the excess salt before using.
There are 3 main types of dishwasher detergent - Powder, liquid or gel and tablets. Which one you choose will be down to personal preference, but most people find tablets very convenient, although using powder is usually more economical and liquids are less abrasive on more delicate items.
WHAT IS RINSE AID?
Rinse Aid is added to a special compartment in the machine and a very small amount is released during the final hot rinse cycle, to reduce the formation of water droplets on crockery etc and so ensures that the water dries away properly and evenly to avoid leaving smears.
Dual action detergent usually contains rinse aid, which is released at a different rate to the cleaning agent and so helps reduce smearing etc without the need to add separate rinse aid. Some 3-in-1 tablets contain an ingredient, which has a 'salt action', which also helps to improve cleaning, but NOTE this is not a substitute for adding salt to the water softener.

The salt action takes place in the cleaning chamber of the machine, but does not actually replenish the water softener. Research has shown that whilst 3-in-1 detergents do clean dishes effectively, their performance is improved by adding salt to the water softener reservoir.
As the performance of machines can vary, as can local water conditions, it is always best to follow your manufacturer’s advice. Some manufacturers advise that if you have unsatisfactory cleaning performance eg white powder residue, poor drying or dirty dishes, then you should return to using three separate products ie detergent, rinse aid and granular salt. Be aware that if you have not been filling the salt reservoir and relying on the salt in 3-in-1 tablets, then it may take a few cycles to re-generate the softener.
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