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We have a fan 60 minute push button timer we purchased and installed with a 3-wire system. WE need to purchase another one but they all have 4 wires now. Where can we purchase a 3-wire one.

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It sounds like you have mechanical push-button type timer.
I need more information to avoid guessing which timer is best for your situation.

I'm not sure what a 3-wire system is?
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1) How many switches control same fan
2) What color wires inside box.

Is this
3) low-horsepower bathroom fan?
4) other fan, for example: higher horsepower attic fan, 3/4 horsepower industrial kitchen fan, or 1-horsepower whole house fan?
5) Is this your home or is fan for continual commercial use?

6) Is this a countdown timer that turns fan OFF automatically after 60 minutes?
7) Or what kind of timer are you looking for.

Open following link for list of home-use countdown timers and horsepower ratings of countdown timers.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Countdown-timer-horsepower-ratings.html

Spring-wound timers do not require extra Neutral wire, and can control 1 HP whole-house fan.
The push-button timers each require Neutral wire to run electronics inside timer, and they range from 1/6 HP to 3/4 HP which will work for any bathroom fan.

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Countdown timers are made to work with bath fans.
Leviton countdown timers are stout product with 1HP rating.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Countdown-timer-horsepower-ratings.html#6200

It sounds like timer is bad.
Wiring sounds good. Make sure you don't have Load and Line wires reversed. Try reversing Load-Line wires and see what happens.
Another thing that affects electronic timers is line noise/interference. If replacement timer does same thing, then noise is suspect. Try timer on another circuit without fan. Try another brand timer. Update to newer LTB60 Leviton timer. Use cheap circuit tester from home center to check outlet on same circuit.

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Despite the fans working on a plain Jane single pole switches, I can't get these 6515M switches to work for my 1.3 ceiling fans. The fan hums and all I get on the timers are red LEDs. These timers...


1) Leviton 6515 is incandescent only:
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-6515M-I-2-5-10-15-Electronic-Incandescent/dp/B0007NOZDI

2) Below is list of countdown timers with horsepower rating so they work for fans:

GE15088 countdown timer is rated 3/4 hp
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay

Intermatic spring wound countdown timers are rated for 2 horsepower
http://www.intermatic.com/products/timers/in-wall%20timers/decorator%20spring%20wound%20timers.aspx

Woods spring-wound countdown timer says bath/ ceiling fans, but doesn't give horsepower
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Wood-59700-series--spring-wound.pdf
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#countdown

Woods push-button countdown is 1/4 horsepower
http://www.amazon.com/Woods-59014-Decora-12-8-4-2-12-Hour/dp/B002C54GH4

Wattstopper RT50 at Grainger shows 1/6 horsepower rating
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/WATT-STOPPER-Time-Switch-2HTE1?Pid=search


3) Following timers are NOT rated for fans:

Lutron MA-T51 countdown timer specifically says it cannot be used for motors.
http://www.amazon.com/Lutron-MA-T51-WH-Maestro-Countdown-Timer/dp/B001EFV1DA
http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/0301041A.pdf

Pass and Seymour RT1 countdown does not show rating for horsepower, so this timer will probably not work for fan motor
http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xg8Zarcd/

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I nees 15 min. timer for my Newtone bathroom heater. I live zip code 94602 Oakland, Ca. Where to find. Thanks


You need "15 minute countdown timer" for a bath fan.

1) Following page shows selection of timer types and brands:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Countdown.html
There are push button electronic types and rotary dial types.

2) Easiest to wire is mechanical spring type countdown timer, FD series.
No electronics that can be affected by 'electric noise' on fan circuit.
Intermatic spring-wound last for years without problem.
http://www.electricsupplyonline.com/prod/intermatic-springwound_timers.php

http://www.electricsupplyonline.com/prod/intermatic-springwound_timers/fd15mc_w005485.php

3) Another reliable timer is GE 15088 sold at Home Depot.
Timer has preset for 20 minutes, not 15
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/

4) Amazon sells reliable 15 minute Intermatic electronic countdown:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3293/ELEC-EI200LA.html?utm_source=SmartFeedAmazonProduct

5) Timex sells 15 minute spring wound countdown timer. Lower price is probably with reason since Timex are generally sold in drug store/dollar store rather than hardware/electric outlets.
http://www.amazon.com/Timex-Minute-Springwound-Countdown-Timer/dp/B00013K69Q

6) Spring wound timers connect easily to same wires that come off old fan switch.
Old switch has 2 insulated wires, connect them to either terminal on spring wound timer.

7) Electronic timers are wired differently:
Instructions for wiring electronic timers appears on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/GE-timers-and-manuals.html#15088

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I have the unit wired and it does not wotk.I have black to black,red to red green to ground and white to white,any thoughts? Thank you


Electrician test wiring before connecting anything.
First of all, you don't mention what type of switch was replaced.

1) Leviton 6230 countdown timer is made to replace single-pole light switch only.
Single pole is where 1 switch controls the Load (light fan motor)

Your wiring sounds like 3-way switch.
3-way is where 2 switches control same Load.
For example a hallway usually has 3-way switches.

To confirm. If old switch has 1 dark screw, 2 brass screws, and 1 green screw, then that is 3-way switch. Use Leviton LTB15, LTB30, LTB60, LTB02, LTB12 countdown timer for 3-way.
Smarthome sells product and shows .pdf manual
http://www.smarthome.com/4255/Leviton-LTB60-1LZ-4-Button-10-20-30-60-Minute-Countdown-Timer-Switch/p.aspx


2) If old switch has 2 brass screws and 1 green screw then that is single-pole switch.

3) If you are replacing single-pole switch, here are testing & wiring instructions for Leviton timer.
Remove device and separate wires for testing.
Use ordinary two wire tester.
Tape tester leads to wood sticks so hands are away from power.
Do not untwist wires that were twisted together before you started.
Turn on power.
Test each wire to bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Hot wire. This wire will connect to timer black wire.
Now you know Hot wire.
Test Hot wire to each of the other wires, excluding bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on neutral. Timer white wire connects to Neutral wire.
If box does not contain Neutral wire, then timer white wire connects to bare ground.

Timer green wire connects to bare ground wire.
Timer red wire connects to wire going to Load.

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I'm trying to install this Woods 59008 automatic fan timer in the bathroom. My old on/off switch only has three wires....and I that a light switch next to that. The woods 59008 has a red, black, white...


Sure George.

These in-wall timers have extra wire to operate the electronics located inside timer.
You said your old switch has 3 wires.
The new timer can only replace on-off switch that has 2 brass screws and a green screw.
If old switch has 2 brass screws and a dark screw, that is a 3-way switch.
Typically a 3-way switch is found at both ends of hallway.
The Woods 95008 countdown timer is not made to replace 3-way:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59000

Here's what to do:
1) Switch has 2 wires (plus bare ground wire). Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
2) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires. This wire will power timer electronics.
3) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.
4) Turn on electricity, and push override button located below the OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

Add a comment if your need more assistance.

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Flickering bulbs


You posted under EJ500 Intermatic battery-operated timer.
If you have different timer, add a comment.
I have tested EJ500 timer.

A) If this is new single-pole installation and lights click on-off when timer turned on, then you connected red wire where blue wire should be connected.

Manual says for single pole switch:
Timer-black-wire to Hot; Timer-blue-wire to Load (lights)
Here's how to wire timer correctly:
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 wires. Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-blue-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) Put wire nut on red wire.
4) Turn on electricity, and push ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-blue and timer-black wires.

B) If you are replacing 3-way switch, view wiring diagrams shown on link below, and then add a comment saying exact color of wires. To wire this timer for 3-way can require additional wire between switches. This is because EJ500 blue wire must always go to Load (light, fan, motor)
http://waterheatertimer.org/ST01C-program.html#EJ500-wire

C) If this is older timer that stopped working, check your bulbs. Then check timer battery. Manual says if timer stops working and bulbs are good, and battery good, then reset timer and reprogram. How to reset timer. Press reset button while holding down Next/ON-OFF button.
EJ500 manual has long list of programming instructions: Add a comment if you forgot parts of programming.
EJ500 manual
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/ej500c%20-%20english.ashx

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You connected red and white wires together.
No problem, nothing burned out, and it's simple to fix. Steps below.

RT1 is electronic countdown timer, and electronic timer clock inside needs separate circuit, just like your alarm clock needs to be plugged in. >> that's why timer has white wire. White wire completes circuit to timer clock.

Manual says:
Timer-black-wire to Hot; Timer-red-wire to Load (lights)
Timer-white-wire to Neutral.
Heres what to do
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 wires. Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground.
5) Turn on electricity, and push countdown button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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The timer you have purchased will not work for 3-way switching.

We know this because the wires are color-coded.
And you have 2 black wires.
Good job providing that information so I can see what you have.
Both your timer wires are black, and that tells the electrician that the timer is made for single-pole only.

That being said, there are timers that have the same color wires as your 3-way switch, but the timer has to say it works for 3-way circuit.
Usually the instruction sheet or package will say, 'for single-pole.'
Or it will say, 'for single-pole and 3-way.'

1) Aube makes programmable 7-day timers for a 3-way installation.
But this timer is not for countdown.

2) I am searching the web for a 3-way countdown timers, and Levition offers one, but they require you to replace both 3-way switches and then install a 'master-and-remote' combo.
This means each timer is a different model number.
If you want help sorting out that purchase, add a comment and I will research the Levition site.

3) Smarthome sells a countdown timer for 3-way circuits.
It appears to be exactly the product you are wanting.
The product has 95 ratings with 4-1/2 stars
http://www.smarthome.com/2476ST/SwitchLinc-Timer-INSTEON-Countdown-Wall-Switch-Timer-Non-Dimming-White/p.aspx
The product manual is right there on the Smarthome page.
They provide an installation video.
Smarthome is very customer friendly.

I specialize in timers and electrical devices, but I do not know the product shown above.
However I can help you install it.
Add a comment and I will help further.

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If you have this type of system your thermostat will not work;
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