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This 10 year old trouble free washer just stopped responding recently. Acts like there is no power getting to it whatsoever, but the power outlet is good. The washer was submerged in about 6 inches of water during a flood 6 years ago but never required any service or had any issues from that occurence other than some apparent bearing squeak. Not sure how to diagnose electronic issues.

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  • davidmickelb Apr 05, 2011

    Sorry, thought the model info was included from my original search for issues with this model. It is a Kenmore model 417.40042990 front loading washer. They sold a million of these and it's been extremely reliable and effective. Would like to hold onto it as it seems good for another 10 years or more. It has the service manual attached inside the machine if that might help. I don't know where the fuses are. I've opened up the front and back panels and there is an apparent control module in the lower left corner looking from the rear. All wires seem to be connected and in good condition. Will await your advice. Thanks!

  • davidmickelb Apr 07, 2011

    Hi again. I got the fuse out and it appears to be rated "250V 25A T" according to a stamp on the circuit board where it was mounted. It is a white ceramic cylinder about an inch long. I called a local appliance parts distributor and they said no such part is listed for my model. I found the same online. I looked online for a fuze with those ratings and found lots of similar matches but they all include a lot of extra details about style, fitment, and additional ratings that I don't understand. So, I don't know which one to order. Any idea whether this would be a "slow" trigger fuse or a regular trigger? I called that RepairClinic.com place and they said there was no fuse on this model. They were not very helpful. Any other suggestions on how to locate the proper replacement fuse? Thanks.

  • davidmickelb Apr 08, 2011

    I'm not sure why this fuse would not be servicable. It is not soldered to the board. It simply clips in and out like any other fuse. I've already pulled it out. I found sources online that sell an assortment of replacement fuses that look exactly like mine. The only issue I'm having is identifying the exact specifications of my fuse. I know it is a "250V 25A T" ceramic fuse and I've learned that the T stands for "slow blow". I'm not sure if different fuses with this rating have other differences, like ohms. Do you have any idea? I don't want to get the wrong fuse and do damage to my board. Not sure if that is a risk or not. I suppose I need to get a decent quality multi-tester and try to figure it out.

  • davidmickelb Apr 13, 2011

    Thanks for the confirmation on the fuse configuration. I installed a new replacement fuse and there was no change. Still no evidence of power reaching the motor. I get no response on any cycle setting on the main dial. As I mentioned before no part of the machine has given trouble in the past or shown evidence of impending failure. Any more do it yourself suggestions for me? Do any suppliers offer a return policy on something like a new speed control panel if I wanted to try one?

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Hello,

Welcome to FixYa.

Can you provide the make and model number of the washer you're inquiring about. Some washers have fuses, and some don't...there are too many possible scenarios to generalize about your machine.

I'll watch for your reply post.

Regards,

Macmarkus :)

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    Mark MacDonald Apr 05, 2011

    Hello again David,



    Thank you for the reply and providing the model number. That is indeed a very popular model of washer and yes Sears sold millions with the Kenmore badge on them, as did Frigidaire, Gibson, GE, White Westinghouse and more.



    To address the issue of fuses, this machine actually only has one fuse and it is located on the control board you referred to on the lower left (from back). you will need to remove the control and check that fuse if you can. The control is held to the washer cabinet base via one screw and a slot at the front, it will simply slide back and out when the screw is removed.



    **First unplug the unit from the wall before performing any service...safety first**



    This is the control I'm referring to just to be sure...#134149220






    If you look closely at the metal casing the control is fastened to, you'll see it is held in place by a couple of screws. Remove these to pull the control out to inspect the board thoroughly (particularly the fuse)...you will need an ohm meter to check continuity of the fuse.



    If the fuse is indeed blown, you'll need to either find a replacement fuse and solder it in place ( I do not know of a place which makes them available, I presume an electronics supply house or the like perhaps...but you'll need the amp and voltage rating of the one in place, I don't recall off hand ) or replace the control which is available at most brick & mortar part stores or on-line at places such as "searpartsdirect.com" "repairclinic.com" for approx. $150 to name a couple.



    Let me know what you find and we'll move forward from there if necessary. Good luck.



    Regards,



    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 08, 2011

    Hello again,



    Sorry I haven't been available for a while. The fuse you are inquiring about is not a serviceable part as I alluded to in my post.



    "If the fuse is indeed blown, you'll need to either find a replacement fuse and solder it in place ( I do not know of a place which makes them available, I presume an electronics supply house or the like perhaps...but you'll need the amp and voltage rating of the one in place, I don't recall off hand ) or replace the control which is available at most brick & mortar part stores or on-line at places such as "searpartsdirect.com" "repairclinic.com" for approx. $150 to name a couple."

    So no, you likely won't get it through typical appliance part sources, I was suggesting you may be able to match the fuse at electronics supply place if you're a "do-it-yourselfer"...but aside from that you'll need the entire control as I mentioned.



    I've been dealing with a very intermittent internet connection this past 24hours or so, again my apologies for the delay in my reply.



    good luck.



    Regards,



    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 08, 2011

    Hey David,



    Sorry for the cofusion. There have been several revisions of this style of control board on these washers...many where sodlered into place.



    If yours is indeed a "snp fit" and you knosw the rating there is no reason you can't simply install an exact replacement of 250Vac-25A slow blow fuse. ( the resistance value is built into the 25A rating...the amount of resistance won't matter. If the meter is set to 1X ohm reading, it should simply be open/infinite or closed/0 ohms...no resistance = obviously "closed" )



    The only thing I'll caution you on is if the old fuse was blown, the new one may simply blow immediately as well indicating there is indeed an issue on the board...but the fuse is certainly an inexpensive alternative to try and resolve the problem.



    Let me know how you make out again and good luck.



    Regards,



    Macmarkus :)

  • Mark MacDonald
    Mark MacDonald Apr 14, 2011

    Hi David,



    It's been a long day so I wasn't able to reply earlier. In any event, I'd be curious to know if the fuse you put in the control is now blown as well. Have you checked ?



    The issue as I alluded to can be on-board the control itself and therefore cause any replacement fuse to blow as well.



    It couldn't possibly be the motor or you'd still have some indication of power through a water fill valve, door lock, drain pump or something.



    Does your washer have any tech sheet or diagnostic literature in an envelope pasted to the side panels inside the cabinet ? That is typically where they are located. I'd suspect it is the control board, but I just hesitate to say without the info regarding the original fuse ( I think you said it was blown, right ?) and the replacement fuse.



    I'll watch for your post and try to reply asap to try and resolve this issue finally.



    Regards,



    Macmarkus :)

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