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Brand new chain saw bought from reputable dealer. The CS600. It was missing a part on the oiler and dealer fixed. Now the clutch overheats badly, to the point it acyually smokes. Does Echo have a policy for lemons. I think the saw could potentially be great, but I am not happy with all the problems this one is having.

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Not had a lot to do with Echo, but have always heard good reports, for smoke to come from the clutch cover the clutch would have to be slipping, either due to running with the chainbrake on, or useing with a very blunt chain. To make sure the brake is off, pull the hand guard fully back to the top handle.

Posted on Apr 04, 2011

Testimonial: "Thanks for the response. Agree that the clutch must be slipping. I have to believe it was not assembled correctly or a bad cluch. Thanks!"

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Start by removing the bar and chain and start the saw with a full tank of fresh Stihl bar oil.
If you are or have used a low grade oil or used oil you may have worn the oiler out.
Watch for oil to come out of the oil port.
If it does at a steady rate of about 10-21cc per min at 13,000 rpm or about 1/2 oz. per min then the bar is clogged with saw dust and needs to be cleaned.

If oil does not come out of the hole you will need to trace back the problem. the oiler is under the clutch. To remove the clutch remove the c clip that holds clutch drum ,washer and bearing remove those comonents and you are to the clutch. the clutch comes off reverse threads (right to loosen)
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This is an OM for a Stihl 028. I did not see an oiler adjustment. It does have the "Master Control Lever" and from what little I know of Stihl this is a source of headaches if not used properly. If you are not familiar with it suggest you read everything the manual has to say about it.
http://www.stihlusa.com/stihl_ownersmanuals/STIHL028_with_safety_manual.pdf

Oil System Plugged:
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  2. Work your way through the linkage (use IPL to identify components and locations) cleaning and replacing any defective parts as you go. Carefully check the hoses for cracks especially at bends and connections. If equipped with an oil pump it is usually behind the clutch (clutch is a left handed thread). Please make extensive notes & some digital pictures will help during reassembly.
If it does not oil on completion of 1 it is most likely a bad oiler or worm gear (see IPL). I has a gear driven oil pump but because it is Stihl and they claim proprietatry right you cannot find an IPL on line. You must also find a Stihl dealer for new OE parts.

ArboristSite Chainsaw thread (free to join)
http://www.arboristsite.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9
This thread is discussing an oiler falfunction on a similar saw, I think Fish is a Stihl dealer, is very helpful and his advice is proven.
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=121837&highlight=028+oiler
You can get IPLs and if the chainsaw Gods smile a shop manual or two here (please do a search and PM someone that has replyed to a similar request):

ArboristSite Beg for manuals thread (free to join)
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=72322

If you have more questions or need additional help please reply below and I will get back to you. Thank you for using FixYa and Good Luck. HTH
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If you want to do some research start with the IPLs here:
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