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Model wfw8300sw05 washer, part # ap4340286 water level switch. I know big brother doesn't want me to do this, but I would like to raise the water level during wash and at least 1 rinse cycle. There appears to be 5 sealed adjustment screws with 6 wires to sw. This leads me to believe that ea. screw controls level for diff. cycles. Unlike old WL switches w/ 1 screw where it is turned CW to raise level, I'm thinking a CCW turn would work here, moving the elec. contact further away from the diaphram. If I'm right, which screw controls which cycle? Thx, Dave

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  • damills73 Apr 03, 2011

    This switch is not like the typical sw. It has 6 wires, all blue, going to controller. Washer does not have water level selection. I can't believe this SW is only used on one model or that mfg. is so precise that no adj. are necessary. On the face of the sw are a couple slots where you can see the diaphragm and it appears to be brass or plated which led me to think it was used as a contact surface. I may be mad, I may be a scientist, but not both.

  • damills73 Apr 04, 2011

    I think that everything designed and built is a compromise. If true then anything can be modified to improve for someone. Therefore, don't mess with it is not an answer. I could buy a valve, experiment and test it, but why then would I need a site like this? Someone must have access to a schematic that can answer my question.

  • damills73 Apr 04, 2011

    OK, so why do suds increase load on motor? I would think suds would make things more slippery. Also wouldn't make-up of load do the same, eg. a load of sweats vs sheets and pillow cases? One would hold much more water and be heavier. Or what about a larger or smaller load on the same cycle? Also, machine has suds overflow duct to get suds out of machine. I can't quite get my head around this one. ???

  • damills73 Apr 05, 2011

    Thanks, Mo, for the reply. I don't mean to be disrepectful, as I have washed dishes and tended bar so I know what you're saying, but I don't see the connection between solids (glassware) and porous fabric. Also, what about different size loads, fabric types etc? Is your opinion based on Whirlpool tech data or your experience? If on tech data, can you tell me if the switches in the level control are NC or NO? Thanks again, Dave

  • damills73 Apr 06, 2011

    Only manual that came w/ machine was consumer cycle descriptions, how to use, etc. No tech stuff or schematics. As to the wrong part #, sorry, got it from Whirlpool parts supply site incl. pic, so I know it is right. I don't need any platitudes about how it's designed to work etc. but I understand unwillingness to provide info that you think might get you in trouble but I also believe in personal responsibility and accept it. I'm about ready to give up on this site.

  • damills73 Apr 06, 2011

    Rick, go to appliancepartspros.com. There you can find the AP part with pics, front and back. Thx

    I don't know how to post a link, see, I am an idiot!

  • damills73 Apr 07, 2011

    Sorry, Rick , about late response, had trouble finding your comments. My bad about part #. At the time, I was so glad to find the part I thought I was on a Whirlpool site. My machine works as it is supposed to and I have not replaced any parts. I would just like a little more water in the wash cycle. I also understand personal responsibility and do not blame others if I do something stupid. Now, if you would be kind enough to answer my question, I would be grateful. Thanks, Dave

  • damills73 Apr 08, 2011

    Thanks, Rick, just found your last post- I'm not very good at this, hope I'm learning. No level selection, just different cycles. I was hoping to eliminate the guesswork and experimentation. Thanks anyway for trying. Dave

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Noooo there all gonna laugh at you lol no just kidding the water level switch aka pressure switch does control how much water the machine fills up with Water level switch, located inside the console, is used in controlling the amount of water entering the washer. There are different water levels, depending on the model you have. Selections might include "extra small", "small", "medium", "large" and "extra large", plus a "reset" option. Some models have a fixed water level switch. This allows for just one water level in the washer. you need an Ohmmeter to test the water level switch. There are three color-coded wires going to this switch: violet (V), pink (P), and tan (T). The violet wire carries the current (electricity) from the timer to the water level switch. Contacts inside the switch send current back through either the pink wire, meaning an empty tub, or tan wire, meaning a full tub of water. this should give you a bit more information about the water level switch also the tube that comes down from the water level switch is also controled as to how much water by that tube that comes off the switch and plugs into the drum as well hint hint If you have any further questions message me back we arent able to tell how to change the engineering specs to a unit although we all love a good mad scientist message me back if you have any further questions Thanks Rick

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    btw that part number does not come up for your machine for the water level switch the actual number would be W10163980 as you can also see on this linkhttp://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdir... i actually have no idea where you got that part number from i said your like a made scientist becuase your trying to adjust the water level higher then the factory preset of how the machine is engineered to work Thanks Rick
    p.s I can see that now if someone where to tell you about adusting the water leveling switch above the factory preset and then it flooded your basement what a wonderful law suit that would be Check your part number because the one i have listed along with the link is for the actual part

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    Rick Ead Apr 04, 2011

    why not try getting the right part for your machine that one with the ap # is the wrong part and probably why you dont have enough water in your machine also if we were to tell you how to go against the manufacturers recommendations and something were to happen to you or your house then you could actually hold us liable for that information due to patents on the machine Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Apr 06, 2011

    sorry bud i could tell you but im not willing to accept the liability of you changing the manufacturers recommendations and take a look at this link http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdir... appliance parts pros have there own part numbers or take that part number on the sears site and compare it to appliance parts pros and see if the two parts are similar heres what repair clinics looks like http://www.repairclinic.com/Shop-For-Par... and repair clinic doesnt recongnize that number either i would suggest you call them on this link though http://www.appliancepartspros.com/part_d... seeing how it is there part and they could assume liability for you changing how this piece performs Thanks again Rick

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EXPERTS (manufacturers) make the washing machine to confirm to Government standards.And DOES not mean that by lessening the water level is in ANY way better.pure ignorance to think "more" water would make your wash come out less clean. Sir, There is a water level knob located in the control panel.use screwdriver to click once to improve water level.And all you people that have the front in loaders with all the watered down detergent, may I let you in on a little secret.I have had my front end loader over 10 years,longer than alot of you.I tested the washer one afternoon while on lower water level,spun the load, put it into a regular washer in garage and the water turned light brown due to dirt etc. left in the clothes.By all means,up your water level and don't be dis-informed by those posting that clearly haven't done their homework.

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    EXPERTS (manufacturers) make the washing machine to confirm to Government standards.And DOES not mean that by lessening the water level is in ANY way better.pure ignorance to think "more" water would make your wash come out less clean. Sir, There is a water level knob located in the control panel.use screwdriver to click once to improve water level.And all you people that have the front in loaders with all the watered down detergent, may I let you in on a little secret.I have had my front end loader over 10 years,longer than alot of you.I tested the washer one afternoon while on lower water level,spun the load, put it into a regular washer in garage and the water turned light brown due to dirt etc. left in the clothes.By all means,up your water level and don't be dis-informed by those posting that clearly haven't done their homework.

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Dave if you monkey with the water level, the motor will draw more amps. The central control unit monitors motor amp draw and if it reads over-amping then it suspects suds are in the wash-load. So that causes the system to do a series of mini-washes to eliminate any extra detergent in the wash.
After 6 attempts the washer declares an error and comes to a screeching halt. So you would be doing yourself a dis-service by attempting to change the water level. My opinion.

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    Dan Webster Apr 05, 2011

    Why do suds increase load on motor?
    You ever reach into the sink and grab out 2 glasses from the soapy water that were stuck together? The action from the sudsing locks the 2 glasses together.

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    Dan Webster Apr 06, 2011

    The whole idea behind these washers is to save water as well as power. They conserve water by using HE detergent in sparingly quantity's and very little water. Go using any old detergent and yall will have errors galore. Put the correct detergent in the wrong dispenser and you will have problems. To rectify any conditions from daily wash the manufacturers have a washing machine cleaner yall add every month or so.

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Thanks for choosing FixYa and welcome. Dave, do you have your manual?

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    Richard Hale Apr 06, 2011

    Dave, for some reason, I didn't see your response. I read on your page a little. It can be done. You are right about that. What I am trying to find is a picture of the switch. You are at the right place Dave. I have did this before, but not to this model. In the two that I have did, it is the screw at 1 o'clock, the first one going clockwise. I only set it for wash though. I never did it for a washing cycle.

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    Richard Hale Apr 06, 2011

    Dave, I don't know why I can't see any of your responses. This has never happened before. All I can is they should be in a specific order, from level to rinse, in that order. So sorry. I will have to look into this. The other questions appear but your does not.

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    Richard Hale Apr 06, 2011

    OK Dave, I found your response. Give me a second to check out this site.

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    Richard Hale Apr 07, 2011

    Hey there Dave. Sorry for the late reply. I have looked everywhere to find out which screw controls what and I can't find nothing. I am not familiar with this exact type. I would think it would be left to right, right side first. So, on the right side, it would be 1, 2, and 3. Then, on the left, going right to left, 4, 5, and 6. You really posted a great question, but it can be done. All I can really say, if you don't find an answer, is adjust number one and examine what it does. I saw nothing in the manual I downloaded about the specific screws and cycles. Does your washer have 3 levels? If so, you may be looking at a screw for each level, low, medium, and high. Then, one f'or wash and one for rinse on each setting.

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Front load washers are designed to use a low water level. If you select a delicate cycle, you will get a slightly higher water level, which results in a gentler wash action. Therefore, even if you succed in raising the water level, you will decrease washing performance. The engeniers and product testers have done their work and know what works best. Don't second guess the experts. Leave the water level alone!

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