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Oven not heating up after using self clean oven feature

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  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    This did not help

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    This did not help as the cycle was not interruped. My oven does not work at all.

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    My Whirlpool oven does not heat after using the self clean cycle. What can be the problem.
    Have checked breakers.

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    Don't know how to check right now.

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    After using self clean feature on Whirlpool built in oven model GBS277 - the oven now does not heat up.

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    I'm hoping to get other answers.

  • bill_mcke138 Apr 01, 2011

    We have now called a repair man - I have been searching the web for this problem and it sounds like it might be the probe sensor. We do not believe that it is the elements.

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OK. Not a professional, but I happen to have a lot of experience with this situation. For reference, I have a Whirlpool RBD305PDT11 Double-Oven with a "Self-Clean" feature.

Inevitably, my bride decided that she would "clean" the oven. She set the controls and let it go. At the end of this procedure, I noticed that the electronic control board no longer showed the time or any other lights. So, I checked it out and found that the oven was ENTIRELY non-functional. Virtually nothing would work.

Since this oven is hard-wired, I turned off the fuse and let it sit for few minutes (these things are just computers, so I thought that I would "reboot" the whole thing). This did nothing.

Then, with the help of the internet (thank you, "Fixya"), I found out that this model of Whirlpool oven (and many others of different brand names) seems to have this sort of problem all the time.

It turns out that the physical act of using the "Self-Clean" feature, with its very high heat, blows a few "Thermal Fuses" that are one-use only and cannot be reset. They must be replaced.

First, be sure to turn off the power to the oven BEFORE doing anything. I did this and then took the oven out of the wall enclosure so I could get to the back of the unit. For sake of brevity, I will not go over the procedure to take the oven out of the wall, but those instructions can be found on the internet. Several metal screws hold the sheet metal covering on the top and bottom. Note: This has happened to me twice now (my bride used the "Self Clean" feature without my knowledge) and I have found that the lower Thermal Fuse has NOT blown either time, but the top one has blown both times.

On this unit, the "Oven Shutdown Thermal Fuse" (part number 4451442 costing about $40) is attached with two screws and is located on the upper left section (picture attached below). It is very easy to take the two wire leads off and remove the two screws holding it in place. You can then check this item with a Multimeter to see if the fuse is working. I won't go over the Multimeter instructions, but, you are looking for "Continuity". If you have continuity (electricity will flow), the fuse is good. If you do not have continuity, the fuse is bad.

The first time that this happened (about 5 years ago), the control panel still had lights on and was issuing "error codes" specific to this brand of oven (I don't remember the codes...F1 or something) and the only problem was the fuse as discussed above.

However, the second time that this happened, as I mentioned earlier, the control panel was blank also. So, I had to look for the "Control Panel Thermal Fuse" also. This fuse can be accessed from the FRONT and is behind the control panel. In this unit, that part number is 4451042 and costs about $20. This item is sheathed in clear plastic with a "bullet-looking" thing inside of the plastic. It is very easy to pull this fuse out and check it for continuity to see if it is in working order. Continuity (electricity can flow from one side to the other), and the fuse is good. No continuity, and the fuse is bad. Again, you can check the continuity with a Multimeter. In the second instance of this happening, this fuse was bad also (that is why the control panel had no lights or error codes or anything).

Once I replaced these fuses, the control panel came back, the oven would then respond and worked just fine. If I was to guess, I would say that the cabinet that the oven is installed into is too tight of a space and the temperature just gets way too hot and the fuses blow. This is just a thought, but maybe a fan set to blow at the unit when attempting the cleaning process would help keep the unit somewhat cooler on the outside. But then, at $60 to fix and all of the hassle involved, I am NOT willing try this just to see if it helps!

Just to get in a rant....How a company can sell a unit with a feature of "Self Cleaning" that, when used exactly per the instructions, will render the unit completely useless is WAY beyond me. Oven not heating up after using self clean oven - oven-not-heating-up-after-using-self-m2kgk0sj4irmtvrbwm3x5vdv-1-1.jpg

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Many a times after self cleaning procedure the internal oven elements get over heated and this cause the heating elements to get shorted.You can get the continuity tested for the elements to confirm, if the element is shorted or working.If its checked ok.Then check the door lock switch.If the oven is not detected closed, the heating will not start.In self cleaning , due to over heating the door latch or door lock closing assembly gets internally over heated.You think door is closed, but actually, its not closed, the door close is not detected by the oven , so heating does not start.Get this possibilities checked.This will help.Keep updated.Thanks.Helpmech.

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Hi
Usually when the self cleaning cycle is interrupted then this issue happens. However, now I believe the door latch assembly has gone bad and should be replaced. You can try to close the door though. Hope this helps...please post back for further assistance.
Daniel

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    The issue can either be a bad electronic control/clock assembly or the oven temperature sensor (probe) has gone bad. To solve this issue start by checking the oven temp. sensor for 1100 ohms, if the rating is more then that then check the control and door switch and replace the part that is bad. Though I believe it is thedoor switch that should be replaced first before replacing anything else. Hope this helps...

    Daniel

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    Daniel Scott Apr 01, 2011

    The issue can either be a bad electronic control/clock assembly or the oven temperature sensor (probe) has gone bad. To solve this issue start by checking the oven temp. sensor for 1100 ohms, if the rating is more then that then check the control and door switch and replace the part that is bad. Though I believe it is thedoor switch that should be replaced first before replacing anything else. Hope this helps...

    Daniel

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    Daniel Scott Apr 01, 2011

    Thats Nice.....post back for further assistance

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    Daniel Scott Apr 01, 2011

    Alright

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    Daniel Scott Apr 01, 2011

    Thats what I told you earlier....anyways hope its fixed for you

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Need manual for self cleaning, please?


Hello Mary;

You can get a user manual at the following website.

Locate your oven model number. It is located on a label either on the face of the oven when you open the door or on the side of the door. Put he model number into the website and you will get diagrams, component part numbers and manuals.

http://www.searspastsdirect.com/

I suspect the user manual is not going to help you. Tell me the model number and what is going on.

Manufacturers offer the self cleaning feature on ovens because customers like this feature and the ovens sell. Yet, the manufacturers engineers have not been able to provide a design that will protect all of the components from self cleaning temperature of 900-1,000 degree F.

When you go into the self cleaning model, the door will lock when you reach 500-550 Degree F. The oven temperature will raise to 900-1,000 degrees F. The oven door will not open until the oven temperature drops to 500 degree F after the self cleaning cycle is completed.

Now, You have a high temperature limit switch in your oven. If this switch fails, you will loose power to your control board and you will not be able to open the oven door.

If you have never used your self cleaning feature, the high temperature limit switch may have failed.

Do to the problems involved with the self cleaning feature, knocking out the control board from heat, additional heating element failure, and other components; It is in my professional recommendation as well as my fellow technicians not to use the self cleaning feature. If you do, do not run it for more than 1 hour instead for the manual 4 hours.

Mar 14, 2016 | Ovens

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Self Cleaning Oven Problem


Before you choose to run you oven in the “Self Clean” mode be sure to read this.
After viewing many hundreds of range and oven problems there is one constant theme that comes through. “After running the self clean feature” on my oven I have this problem or that problem. Whether the oven is gas or electric does not seem to matter. The common thing is that the self cleaning feature was just used on the oven, and now it is not working, the glass broke, or you now, cannot even get the door open.

The basic idea of a self cleaning oven is to get the oven so hot that you incinerate everything that is in the oven. The heat from this process will burn up everything in the oven and sometimes things outside also. Even though the wiring and controls are built to withstand high heat, taking the oven to such high temperatures pushes everything to the limit. If something is not insulated perfectly or has shifted a bit then the heat causes it to fail. Repeated heating also wears the insulation out and causes it to break down. For this reason the self cleaning features should be used sparingly.

Manufacturers want to please the customer so even though they know that this can create problems they also know that this feature sells more products. It is in your best interest to not even use this feature if possible.

If you have a oven that will not unlock after the cycle you have a few things you can try.

First make sure that you wait long enough before you try to open the oven. If it has not cooled completely it will not open. Do not run a clean cycle when you do not have the time to let it cool completely before you need it. Sometimes if you cycle the power to your oven off and then on again you can reset the oven and it will open. Turn off the breaker to your oven for a good minute or two before reapplying the power again.

If this fails to work then check your manual for instructions or to get a factory service number. They should be able to give you the information you need to open your oven.

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4388324-oven_fault_codes_ge_xl44_oven

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4391163-range_stove_oven_door_glass_replacement

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4404788-electric_oven_problem_oven_will_not_shut

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4319588-electric_oven_problems_not_use_in

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4154940-fault_codes_admiral_range_stove_oven

http://www.fixya.com/support/r3969401-self_cleaning_oven_problem

http://www.fixya.com/support/r3663023-oven_not_working_or_oven_not_heating

http://www.fixya.com/support/r3907570-buy_appliance_parts_online

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Before you go working too hard to get you oven to go into the self clean mode(self destruct)....check out this tip...

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heatman101

" Wish I had read this first. I never would have used the self cleaning option. Thanks for the info!!

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