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I have a EB5000X Honda Generator and get a voltage of 127 volts on one leg and only 24 volts on the other on the 4 prong 220 plug. what is the problem. I get full 220 at the breaker

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  • jerikofarm Mar 25, 2011

    I do not have 220 volts between any of the prongs. Is it normal to have continuity between ground and three of the poles on the 220 4 prong plug?

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Hi and welcome to FixYa, I am Kelly.
The ground is the upper left terminal of the 4 prong plug. Power is on the upper right terminal.

I am looking at your wiring diagram on page 50 of this manual:
http://www.poweredgenerators.com/honda/manuals/31Z22601.pdf

First make sure the 120 / 240 selector switch is on 240V
Once your sure that switch is in the correct position read upper left to Upper right
Next read upper left to bottom left
Last read bottom left to to top right
Let me know what your readings were.

Just from here it appears the 120/240 switch is either in the wrong position or there is a problem with that switch.

Ask as many questions as you like in your responses. I can and will help you.
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    Kelly Mar 29, 2011

    Your comment:

    I do not have 220 volts between any of the prongs. Is it normal to have continuity between ground and three of the poles on the 220 4 prong plug?

    Generator running the output power switch / CB must be ON and the 120 / 240 switch must be on 240 to read any voltage at the 4 prong outlet



    ___Ground ____ 120 VAC





    ___ 120 VAC ____Neutral



    You will read continuity between all connections except neutral

    The neutral (bottom right) will read to the other 120 VAC outlets "Large" terminal regardless of CB Position.



    Check the stator windings. Open all CB's thenocate the terminal block (4 post) and read RED to WHITE (Main Winding 1) and then read BLUE to GREEN (Main winding 2) I think you just might have 1 open winding... BOTH windings should have equal resistance. If BOTH windings read the same continuity value then it is pointing right at the 120 / 240 switch as the problem area. Could be the switch or the wires on that switch.



    The fact that you read 127 VAC on one side and 24 VAC on the other side is telling you that your most likely missing 1 leg of power and one stator winding may be partially open. This would show up as a major resistance difference in your winding 1 & 2 checks. )R to W /1 and G to Bu /2)



    Kelly

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    Kelly Mar 29, 2011

    Forgot to mention this. If the winding checks fail don't assume the stator is toast. They use some in line connectors and often those in line connectors overheat from being loose and fail. I just get some heat shrink cut out the connectors slide on the heat shrink (away from area to be soldered), solder the wires together.. position the heat shrink over the splice and then shrink the heat shrink over the solder connection.

    Kelly

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Make sure you are reading the correct pins of the 4 prong plug. Capacitive coupling would give the low reading if you were reading from a hot one to the CASE type ground pin. You should find two readings of 120 between ONE of the 4 prongs and each of the hots and 240 between the hots. Between any hot and the safety (CASE) ground you will see a voltage that depends on the impedance of your meter and the electrical capacitance of the windings to the case. something up to 1/2 of the 120 volts would be expected so the 24 vollts would be perfectely possible.

It is important to identify which prong is the neutral and the two hots. The fourth prong then is a safety ground and UNLIKE your service entry of a residence, it is NOT tied to neutral at the generator.

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  • Fred Yearian Mar 26, 2011

    Normally one of the contacts should have continuity to the frame. The other three should have continuity between themselves. HOWEVER this is ONLY if the voltage selector is in the 120/240 position. You will probably find 120 between two prongs and only capacitive coupling IF the switch is in the 120 position. In other words, what you are seeing is perfectly normal IF the voltage selector is in the 120 position. The two 120 volt windings are connected in parallel for 120 only operation and series for the 120/240 operation.

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