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In line fuse blows 4-5 X/yr. i buy the fuse online at $15 but i am getting sick of changing it. what is causing the fuse to blow? model KUDSO1FLSS3.

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  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    what is the solution? don't see it

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    i have 2 identical dishwashers.. each are on separate 20 amp breakers. only the one on the lefr blows the fuse inside the panel. that cannot be the problem

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    i have 2 identical dishwashers that were purchased in 2004. The thermal fuse blows at least 4-5 X/yr. i buy the fuse online at $15 and remove the panel with a torx driver. i am getting sick of changing it. what is causing the fuse to blow? the model is KUDSO1FLSS3. both dishwashers are on separate 20 amp breakers on a house we built in 2004

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    this is at a 2nd home so the dishwashers don't get much use. it seems to blow regardless of whether it is being used.. i think..i replaced the fuse probably less than 15 washes ago.how much is the entire harness assembly? could it be the thermostat? i was told the thermal breaker breaks when the temperature gets to hi?? maybe better question is what is the fuse supposed to protect?

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    so what is the answer? we have had the problem for 3-4 years... it is getting more persistent...would replacing the harness fi\x it?

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    what is the part # on the kit? the Thermal cutoff i keep replacing is 8193761

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    this is the part that i keep buying. are you saying that there is a new part that replaces this one?
    http://www.appliancepartspros.com/part_d...

  • chris_stpaul Mar 20, 2011

    every time i replace the fuse, i replace the wires.. i will call marcone tomorrow. i don't think this solves my problem though

  • chris_stpaul Mar 21, 2011

    marcone has the same fuse kit as i have bought time and time again..to the extent that i have another dishwasher without issues, i cannot believe there is an issue with the fuse. i think the there is a thermostat problem or heating element problem. thanks

  • chris_stpaul Mar 24, 2011

    it is a second home.. we will not be there until next week to change the fuse... and if it blows, it will be a few months

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First how often is the fuse blowing? does it blow immediatly or over a couple days some dishwashers have a type of tar like substance that is supposed to protect the wires on the inside of the door this is actually one of the worst things they did when manufactureing the machine instead of protecting the wires it eats away the coating on the wires making them easily exposed to the metal against the door which causes the fuse to trip often. also you can check the ground which should be properly screwed into the frame of the unit located down the right bottom side as well. You have two options in which you can disect the front panel and turn off the power and go wire for wire doing continuity tests to find the actual break in which line and checking each wire visualy for cracks to see if any are shorting against the unit also checking to see if there is any water getting into the area around the handle as well I have seen a couple posts where water has dripped down on the inside of the door and caused this same occurance. Another choice would be less time consuming would be to replace the entire harness assembly as well. Make note of any areas that you do find any scorch marks against the panel this would be your problem area. If you have any further questions message me back and please remember when our chat has fully concluded to rank how this opinion has helped it allows me to help others in similar situations in the future Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    I have now been able to see your previous posts 4-5 years is not actually due to a the tar substance mentioned only If it were within 30 days. It would be a manufacturer defect in how the part is made. When these appliance companies make these parts they dont make them to last at all they purposely design these parts to short due to moisture and condensation or just general use. It is not like the old days anymore where you could by a whirlpool or a maytag and the unit lasts you 25 years without a single problem. They actually are designing the units of todays appliances to break within a specified amount of time. heres an example a brand new whirlpool top loader which is about the easiest type of appliance to fix comes direct from the factory with a plastic drive couple which is what connects the motor to the transmission and allows the motor to turn the transmission to make the tub spin. This drive couple actually has a 2-3 year time period after the warranty runs out in which it then breaks causeing the consumer to have to go by the new type of drive couple which has a metal ring in the center to prevent this from happening. So if they knew about this problem at first why do they still send these units out with the plastic drive couple that doesnt have the metal ring. Its to make the consumer pay more for there parts in my opinion. And it doesnt just happen to one make it happens to mostly all makes due to manufacturers and engineers not paying to study what breaks down after time. And you would have to also look at this to there point of view which is the part may cost maybe 20 dollars to replace but how many people have to replace that part within how long. There are many views why this happens on your particualr model some say condensation or moisture getting to the thermal fuse others say cracks in the wiring all in all its basicly a bad design issue by the manufacturer in which they know about the problem and choose to do nothing about it if you have any further questions message me back Thanks again Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    there is also a couple of blogged posts on these sites stating how they fixed the problem by replacing the wires as well in that area click here http://forum.doityourself.com/kitchen-la...

    also says on this blog on another site that they have upgraded the wiring and the fuse now comes in a kit in which you replace the wiring as well as the fuse click this link http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/...



    if you have any further questions message me back Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    getting the kit that comes with the wires that you have to replace as well as the new fuse would fix the issue they have upgraded the wiring due to this manufacturing defect

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    the kit includes the new fuse and the wires all as one you can try www.marcone.com under contact us there is a 1800 number and they mail anywhere in the world

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    easiest way to get the part number for the kit is call 1800 482 6022 this is marcone appliance parts one of the largest appliance parts companies in the world i will also go search for the exact part number for you as well but I mainly repair units and leave the parts look up to this excellent company Ive been doing business with them for over 10 years and if I need a part as a kit i simply tell the sales personel this and they give me the exact number Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    if i use my look up sites on that part number i get this click here http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdir...

    or you could goto this site http://www.frigidaire.com/partsdistribut... and they could also locate the kit note if you do goto one of the smaller appliance companies they tend to break up the kit so that it costs you more. Personally I would just use marcone. If you have any further questions message me back Thanks again Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    and once again please remember when our chat has concluded in full to rank how this opinion has helped it allows me to help others in similar situations in the future Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    im saying your buying the single piece from them instead of the kit that contains the wires that you replace as well they have broken the kit up to make more $$ out of the kit itself on that site have you called marcone?you can ask for the upgraded kit that contains the wires that you are supposed to replace as well as the thermal cutoff if you dont say you want the kit they will all just try to sell you the cutoff alone

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    it is a upgraded part as far as the fuse which if you get as the kit also comes with the harness as well yes this is the same fuse but it comes with the harness as well it is upgraded from the original one that you bought 3-4 years ago click this link http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/T... this one is to a superbra though so i would suggest you call marcone and ask if theres comes as a kit that also contains the harness as well on all when you replace the thermo cut off you should replace the harness if you have any further questions message me back Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    yours looks the same as mine but differnt part numbers maybe the one i found has the harness it says it does so give them a call and ask them if your part number is compared to part number Item #959376 and if this can be used in your model Thanks rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 20, 2011

    it does because its an upgraded part from the last time you replaced the part they were made aware of the problem where it kept blowiing every couple years and have upgraded the part read the links i have posted throughout this chat they will point you in the same direction Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 21, 2011

    if you think you have a thermostat or element issue then grab you multimeter and do continuity test to each to assure that they are working very simple process and no neither of these cause that cutoff to blow go on every site and you will find it posted over and over yes i do realize this is the piece that you replaced 3-4 years ago but maybe you do not realize they have supposedly upgraded that piece which would mean same part number but supposedly its made differently I can only go on experience and what is writen from the manufacturer so if you think it is some other cause then i welcome your views and look forward to helping you prove or test your theory

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    Rick Ead Mar 21, 2011

    actually if the thermostat is getting wet then it could do you see any water marks on the thermostat at all the element would not be the issue

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    Rick Ead Mar 24, 2011

    hello awaiting your reply on how you made out with the repair Thanks Rick
    p.s please remember to rank how this opinion has helped it allows me to help others in the future Thanks Rick

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    Rick Ead Mar 24, 2011

    ok could you please rank this opinion then it wil keep the chat open for as long as you have questions and you and i can continue chatting about this back and forth or if i am unable to respond to your questions without this being ranked it would go to another tech after a 4 hour period where i was unable to answer and i would like to keep this chat open till we finally have a resolution to your problem otherwise when am i traveling or at work back on the east coast and was not able to answer this within this 4 hour period you would have to start all over again Thanks Rick

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