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Intermittent spin cycle (clothes sometimes still wet), Changed the motor and coupler already from blind advice of not seeing any oil on the floor (costly mistake). Second assesment discovered tacky oil on the gearcase and splattered on the drain hose and other components (however not on the floor). Posts indicate transmission and/or clutch, scared to make a second mistake. How can I determine which one is bad? Model # KAWS750JQ4

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  • ricci708 Mar 21, 2011

    I bypassed and removed the lid switch years ago. The drum does spin, only very slow, I really don't hear any funny noises.

  • ricci708 Mar 22, 2011

    The drum does spin, it doesn't spin fast enough to dry the clothes. What are your thoughts on the oil on the gearcase?

  • ricci708 Mar 22, 2011

    Items # 12 and 13 are listed as:

    12-389140 Block, Basket Drive

    13-383727 Gasket, Centerpost


    How would I check to see if they are bad? and if they are would the drum turn at all? I do get a slow spin.

  • ricci708 Mar 25, 2011

    Daniel,



    The video you sent is very informative and a great how to guide, however, I would like information on narrowing the problem down by determining if thye problem is the transmission or the clutch. I already made a one mistake, I don't want to make a second. My symptoms are that I do not hear any funny noises, there is some oil slatter on the gearcase and surrounding parts, the drum spins slowly causing the clothes to be wet and sometimes it works correctly.

  • ricci708 Apr 13, 2011

    Daniel,

    I changed the transmission, it seemed to work, however when the drum was spinning it appeared to achieve top speed and I was able to stop the drum with little to no pressure with my hand. I than ran a wash with clothes and it does not dry the clothes. What else can it be? I changed the motor, coupler and now transmission.

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Hi

What about the lid switch, have you already checked that? You can try to jump start the switch by removing that switch and then connecting its two wires together, if the washer spins then replace it, if not then let me know if you hear any noises and the model no and how old is this unit. Hope this helps...please post back for further assistance.

Daniel

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    Daniel Scott Mar 21, 2011

    Years ago.... :)...if it was really years ago then do it again to check that....if it wont spin and you doing hear any noised then check the clutch assembly, it does not indicate a transmission failure. If bad it should be replaced.

  • Daniel Scott
    Daniel Scott Mar 22, 2011

    Hi



    Oil on gear-case is not good if it is in very high quantity, however a few drops of Oil are fine. Also, check part#13 (Directional coupling) in below schematic. Coupling Kit Is Used Between The Motor And The Transmission On Direct Drive Washers With No Belt. This Is The Newer Version And Is Made With New Metal Sleeves.











    I would suggest you to get a new Lid Switch and install it as it is for safety of user. Hope this helps...Please post back for further assistance.




    Daniel


  • Daniel Scott
    Daniel Scott Mar 22, 2011

    Check this video:


  • Daniel Scott
    Daniel Scott Mar 25, 2011

    Yes thats why I sent that video....it is the gear case assembly that should be replaced

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El Resorte de la trasmision en inges se llama MOTOR COUPLER

Si pincha aqui y pone correctamente su numero de modelo pede veer directamente los diagramas para instalar el motor coupler.

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Motor coupler
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  • If it's spinning when you lift the lid, the coupler is fine.


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Alternatively, there could be clothes caught between the inner and outer tubs. Read the "It spins but won't pump" section of the "It won't drain" section. Also, there could be other things that cause friction on the drive train. Seek the assistance of a qualified appliance repair technician.

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Aconsejo tambien comprar el manual de servicio aqui

Aqui hay un ejemplo de ingranages for el motor coupler, se montan en el palito donde el motore enchufa con los otros ingranajes:

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Agradeceria si pede votar la solucion, posibilmente en azul.

Muchas gracias.

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