Question about Porter Cable Cable Brad Nailer and Compressor Combo Kit CFBN200A

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Porter Cable 16 gauge brad air nailer: The plunger does not return enough to pickup the next brad. No binding and when the plunger is pushed back it will work one shot and then not return enough to drop behind the next brad. Worked great one day, next day partially and now fails 100% unless the plunger is pushed back.

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  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    Thanks for the reply. I have model FN250A, SN 600941. I use the nailer at home. It is several years old but has very little use and is like new. I have checked the inside of the cylinder and it is as clean as though it is new and well lubricated. There does not appear to be any air leakage. On this model what actually returns the plunger to the home position? There is no spring forward of the plunger. There is a rubber bumper that the plunger hits when the nailer is fired.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    No damage to 122. Very smooth and straight. No signs of wear. The guide plate part 404 that the part 122 travels in is smooth and when 122 is pushed back to home postion the action is smooth. When the plunger fully extends to the end of the cylinder and hits the rubber bumper what causes the part 122 to return home in the absence of a spring to push it back? Is there some type of reverse air action?

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I think I need someone that understands how this model works and what returns the plunger to home position. Air pressure is good, there is no wear in the moving parts, everything is clean and the gun has always been used with a compressor that has a dryer and filter. Once someone can tell me what returns the plunger then we will be on the right track.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    Air regulator is fine and putting out required pressure and I use the oil furnished with the nailer each time I use the nailer. I have other nailers that I use on the same compressor and they work fine.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    Air pressure and volume good at regulator. I use other nailers with same compressor and regulators. I use two to three drops of the oil furnished with the nailer each time I use the nailer. I don't think pressure and lubrication is the problem.



    On this model what returns the plunger to the home position? Model FN250A, SN 600941. Have you seen the comments sent to the previous person trying to help?

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I've taken it apart and it is extremely clean. So far no one has been able to tell me what returns the plunger to the home position. Can you tell me? I don't want to start buying parts until I know what returns the plunger.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    The spring is behind the plunger so it is not what returns the plunger. What returns the plunger? There is no binding and all o-rings are still soft. I think the key is what returns the plunger and when that is known then we will be on the right track.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I have fired it without nails probably 20 to 30 times. The plunger only returns about 2/3 of the way. Works fine with real short nails but will not return enough for 1 1/4" and over without manually pushing the plunger back to home position. Does not appear to have excess oil.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I appreciate your input. Monday I will remove the trigger and see if it is a two way valve. On other models what returns the plunger?

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    Thanks for hour input.

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I'll recheck the o-rings. Thanks

  • clayh434 Mar 19, 2011

    I did that last week and fired the nailer many times. Does not appear to be excess oil as it is not blowing oil out and when I took it apart there was not excess oil. Thanks

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Hi,
Have you tried taking it apart, cleaning and oiling it???
Any of these units need to be taken apart, cleaned and oiled almost daily...

heatman101

Posted on Mar 19, 2011

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    D. Floyd Kolb Mar 19, 2011

    Okay... now I see that you have been over all of that...so yes.. there is a spring....and there are maintenance kits.. for your tool...

    Here is the link to the site...I would get the driver maintenance kit....scroll down to the bottom of the page to see the kits...

    http://www.ereplacementparts.com/porter-...

    heatman101

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    D. Floyd Kolb Mar 19, 2011

    On many of these tools there is an o-ring that seals a chamber... the pressure from the driver going down is what pushes the driver back up....if this o-ring goes bad and leaks the pressure will not force the driver back up...there usually is a spring assist and on this tool I think I see a spring that helps also in the exploded view...along with a number of o-rings... I'm sure the driver maintenance kit will have what you need to get your tool working again along with instructions on how to rebuild it...this website seems to have very good satisfaction ratings also...along with a repair forum and a toll free number to call for help...

  • D. Floyd Kolb
    D. Floyd Kolb Mar 19, 2011

    One of the o-rings has to be leaking even though it seems okay or there is a crack in one of the parts....so it does not build the pressure to return the driver...

  • D. Floyd Kolb
    D. Floyd Kolb Mar 19, 2011

    Your welcome... hopefully you can get it resolved easily...and that there is nothing major wrong with your gun...cracks sometimes can go unseen with no air pressure....

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    D. Floyd Kolb Mar 19, 2011

    Great!! Have a good day!!

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Hi, W/D here.
Put two drops of pneumatic oil into the air inlet every day of use and connect the air line. You can also spray the bar of brads with W-D 40 when you load them.

Check your air regulator setting against the required nailer pressure and adjust it as required. It sounds like the output pressure from the regulator is too low.

Best regards, --W/D--

Posted on Mar 19, 2011

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    woobie dog Mar 19, 2011

    Too much oil applied can have as much effect as too little oil, as oil tends to pool in the ports and can keep the return port for the piston plugged. Remove all nails, and work the gun against scrap wood pulling the trigger (firing blanks) to help remove excess oil.
    --W/D--

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Hi and welcome to FixYa. I am Kelly
I believe you have the CMS200 nailer and your parts can be found here:
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/porter-cable-ms200-type-gauge-medium-crown-stapler-parts-c-129_2102_2250.html

Take apart the power head and clean everything up. Make sure to check the condition of the spring item 117 (this is the weak link) and to clean the cylinder item 127 very well. After cleaning use a light coat of oil to reassemble everything.

If your using this at home... I would see if I could get by with just replacing any noted bad parts vs the pricey $70.97 overhaul kit item 1001 at the bottom of the page link above.

Usually there is a damaged seal in the cylinder / driver area or a broken spring that is causing your nailer to not operate properly. It is a matter of identifying the bad part(s) and replacing it / them. Unless your nailer is leaking air all over the place you do not need the overhaul kit.

Let me know if I got the model number incorrect and I will look again. However, you can use the search panel at the top of the linked page above to search for your nailer using the model number of the nailer itself.

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    Kelly Mar 19, 2011

    I can not tell you without physically looking at it which part you need but the driver kit here:

    http://www.ereplacementparts.com/driver-... The kit will have the parts to solve your problem. The plunger hanging up can be caused by a damaged guide plate. The part you need is most likely item 122 in the drawing. (Note it only shows up as the driver maint kit) Look for any dings in this area near the foot.



    Kelly






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    Kelly Mar 19, 2011

    I am pretty sure that air is ported from one of the 2 trigger valves back into cylinder. I am talking about items 200 and 206. There should be multiple ports in the trigger area if this is the case, Should you note that there are no ports in either of those areas I am also mystified as to how the driver guide is retracted. Without a spring it has to be done via air. I note a spring in the head (Item 115) but it is in no way connected to the driver head and that spring acts to kick the driver guide down; not up. The only think I can thimk of at the moment is that maybe one of the o-rings in the trigger valve area some how got cut and is blocking the port or... there just isn't enough air getting into the cylinder to push the driver guide back up. Still sounds like a blocked port or cut o-ring to me. You said it is not leaking air anywhere so the blocked port is the only thing that makes any sense.



    Kelly

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    Kelly Mar 19, 2011

    No worries on your seeking some one elses knowledge. I have rebuilt more than 50 nailers but not your particular model. Sadly... I would have to take a good long look at yours and I am sure that is not possible. I figure it out by removing the trigger and using LP air at low volume for the air passages and use my ear listening for air flow everywhere while it is apart and again gently with the cylinder installed. You will not find a service manual for this model anywhere. I do wish you the best and hope that you do not get a less than qualified response in the future.



    Take care,



    Kelly

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    Kelly Mar 20, 2011

    There are 3 types of nailers Light, Medium and Heavy Duty. Nearly all of the light duty ones use a spring no matter who makes them. The medium duty ones can use a spring, air or both. The Heavy Duty nailers mostly use Air. Since yours is a 16 guage nailer it would fall under the Heavy Duty Classification so I am only assuming it uses air. The 2 places I would be looking is that safety rod that goes from the bumper to see if it was bent and as I said before use low volume LP air in the trigger area and plugging input the air line connection. You may have to play with the safety rod. The rod bends at the bottom of the first bend from the top. (weak link) Yours has a knurled thumb wheel on the safety rod. As far as I know this does not do anything but actuate the nailer. I see a "teeter plate" on the top of your safety rod that may have something to do with providing air to retract the driver. It does not appear that it would have anything to do with retraction of the driver just by looking at it. Sure has my curiousity factor up. I am still researching and contacting a few others that work on nailers. So far no answers back. (weekend maybe?)



    Just for grins... disconnect the air hose and see if it retracts before you tear into it again.



    Kelly

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