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My Mom's White machine is at least 45 years old and she hadn't used it for about 5 years. She started sewing with it the other day and broke a needle. When she replaced the needle, the machine 'wouldn't run'. I cleared the thread jam in the bobbin area and completely oiled the machine. It sounds fine when run without thread, but when threaded, the upper thread will not catch the bobbin thread. Help!

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  • Joan Mar 18, 2011

    Nope, the needle is inserted correctly - and we have tried another needle as well.

    When we turn the wheel by hand, we can see the upper thread come down outside the bobbin case completely to the bottom of the case but then it will not come around the case to pick up the bobbin thread - instead it comes back up on the right side of the case. The needle - and the thread itself (we changed that as well - is not the problem. Something is stopping the the thread from makiang it's complete circuit arou nd the bobbin case.

  • Joan Mar 18, 2011

    I did what you asked - it will not pick up the thread

  • Joan Mar 18, 2011

    No piece of the needle is in the bobbin case - the needle is a 'shorter one' - I have been sewing weekly for 35 years and my Mom was a seamtress for some 20 years. We know the common things to look for and can fix them. This is not a common problem with a common fix.

  • Joan Mar 18, 2011

    The upper thread will not catch the bobbin thread. It's not the needle or the thread or how it was threaded. In the many years that my Mom and
    I have been sewing we have never seen anything like this. The machine sounds fine if it's run at length without any thread. But once threaded, one of two things will happen: 1)the bobbin thread won't get caught at all, or 2) the upper thread gets so wound around the outside of the bobbin case that it jams the machine. The second thing happening is rare. Can you help?

  • Joan Mar 18, 2011

    I am not talking about bringing the bobbin thread up onto the work area. I am talking about the machine making the stitch itself. If you know how a sewing machine works, when the threaded needle descends, the thread it is carrying makes a loop completely around the outside of the bobbin case. When it comes around to the top again, it makes a loop around the bobbin thread (which is already on the work area). On my Mom's machine, when the threaded needle comes down to the bobbin, the thread is not making that complete loop around the outside of the bobbin case and therefore it is not picking up the bobbin thread. Can anyone out there help me?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    Both my Mom and I have been threading a sewing machine correctly for years. This is not a threading problem. Will someone plese read my last comment on how a sewing machine works to make a stitch and see if they can tell my why the machine is not picking up the bobbin thread when the (correctly)threaded needle comes down to its low point in the cycle?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    We have been thru everything you have commented on and none of these is the case EXCEPT a possible bobbin timing problem - it's not a tension problem, I KNOW what that is like and it's not that. How do I check for and rectify a bobbin timing problem. That's the one thing in your list that I know nothing about. Is that something I can correct? Or at least verify?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    I did reply. I said that everything you have said, I have known about and tried. The only thing I don't know about is the bobbin timing. How can I verify that and fix it?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    So how do I check to see if the timing is correct? Are there any internal marks to line up? I assume that the needle would have to be at either its highest point or its lowest point when checking the timing, but that's all I can think of. What else has to be looked at?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    So how do I check the timing? I assume that the needle has to be at its highest or lowest point but there has to be something else to line up - maybe some marking to look at? Or the position of some mechanical item? Any clues you can give me?

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    I cannot get the picture you sent

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    Thank you - I hope it helps me - nothing and no one else has seemes to have had a clue!

  • Joan Mar 19, 2011

    This did not solve my problem but he was the only person who listened to what my problem was and he has led me in a direction which makes sense to me. Even tho the problem is not solved, he helped me tremendously.

  • Joan Mar 20, 2011

    Thank you for your help. It seems to be a bobbin timing problem. Thank you very much for reading my comments and not treating me like a novice on a machine - you are the only person to have done that. I am satisfied with, and grateful for, your help.

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(1) Check the needle or replace with a new one. A needle has a groove in one side of it and that is the side that the thread enters the needle. Some thread from the side and some from the front.
(2) Before sewing, manually turn the wheel to make the needle goes down while holding the needle thread with your left hand. When the bottom thread pulls up, pull both threads toward the back of the machine before sewing.
(3) Make sure that the needle si the correct needle for the machine and that it is not too short.
(4) Make sure your pressure foot has been lowered. Sounds silly, but if you lift is high it might just look like it is engaged.
(5) Try it on two ply fabric first and try both a straight stitch and a zig zag and see if you have problems with either.
(6) Make sure your thread is really machine thread and not hand sewing thread.
(7) Make sure the bobbin thread is feeding off the bobbin spool in the right direction.
(8) Anything other than these is probably a tension problem or a bobbin timing problem.

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  • Hans Pearson
    Hans Pearson Mar 19, 2011

    No response seen?

  • Hans Pearson
    Hans Pearson Mar 19, 2011

    This is a view of the position of the needle in relation to the bobbin hook if the timing is correct and the needle is set at the right height.

  • Hans Pearson
    Hans Pearson Mar 19, 2011

    There always seems to be a problem sending pictures in responses. I am doing something that we should not do and that is directing you elsewhere. Have a look at this site, it has pictures and instructions and hopefully we can solve you problem this way. http://www.fixsewingmachines.com/How-to-...

  • Hans Pearson
    Hans Pearson Mar 20, 2011

    As I said, I hope it helps, but if you have any problems at all, do not hesitate to come back to me at any time.
    Regards,

    HANS

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Hi, what makes the upper thread not to catch the bobbin thread is because you did not place it well in the bobbing area properly...

How to Upper Thread a Sewing Machine & Start Sewing

Threading a sewing machine appears complicated when you first begin sewing but all standard sewing machines thread in a similar manner. Sergers, sewing machines with multiple spools of thread on the machine, are threaded a bit differently. Sergers have an upper spool and a bobbin case that both need to be threaded. Once you learn to sew, you can save money by repairing, or tailoring clothing instead of buying them new.

Instructions

things you'll need:

Spool of thread


Find the end of the thread on the spool and unwind the thread two or three turns.

Place the spool of thread on the spindle at the top rear of the sewing machine. Most spindles stand upright but a few lay horizontally.


Find the thread guide at the back of the machine and run the thread through it. All threading should be in a simple line, never looped backward binding the thread.

Bring the thread to the front of the machine and run the thread through the top, farthest right guide, threading from right to left.


Bring the thread down the front of the machine and three quarters of the way around the tension adjustment knob from the right to the left. The thread will sweep up the tension wire and then be trapped on a guide beneath it. The thread should still be able to move easily through the tension guide.


Raise the thread pulling arm to the top by turning the wheel at the right end of the sewing machine. Thread the eye in the arm from right to left.


Bring the end of the thread down the front of the machine inserting it through any guides. On some machines the thread is slipped behind a hook rather having to thread it through the guide.


Slip the thread into the thread guide on the front of the needle holder.


Thread the needle from front to back. Pull a 6-inch tail through behind the needle.

Tips & Warnings

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Do not use press on the foot pedal while threading the machine.

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    SANYADE OMOTOLA Mar 19, 2011

    Hi, replace the bobbin case... That will do...

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Hello bjo... with an older machine, when you plunge the needle down into the bobbin case and come back up with a loop in the area, you have to take a spare needle, pin or whatever is handy at the time and pull that loop up....that is the bobbin thread.

Pull both threads to the back of the machine under the presser foot with the needle bar at its highest point and you are set to go.

This is one of those procedures you have to do everytime you insert a new bobbin or change a bobbin color.

It is also a good idea to get a scrap of fabric and then do a test sample to make sure everything is threaded correctly and ready to go for the project....saves you a big ripping hassle if it isn't and you are working on a project.

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This is happening cause you either did not inserted the needle in the correct position ..or is not the proper one ...If you do not have another needle ..try to let it out (to be longer ) a little ..mm by mm until it catches the thread ..
First look if you inserted it right ..and not the other way ..The flat part need to be on the arm side..and the screw will tide in the round part of the needle's thick part ..So ...oil it well and move it for 15 minutes ..and lower the needle until it catches the thread..probably the needle is a shorter model..
Also look inside for the tip of the needle not to be left in the bobbin area...
have a nice day ..

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    Catalin Turcu Mar 18, 2011

    Just try like I said to low down the needle half a mm ..and see if it picks up the thread or not..

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