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I am looking for a tiger 200 manual. My hard drives seem to be running very slow. I am assuming the White socket is for the 80 wire cable. It is working, but very slow.

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Hy Ashley,

First up,
Your channel 1 no 80 conductor cable,
tell me that you have mounted a new HDD to your computer,
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