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I have tried several steps to correct my Bernina 160's bottom thread tension; too loose. I did occur after I cleaned out bobbin case & hook race,

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Buy to loose do you mean big loops on the botom? If so fallow these steps.
Usaly big loops on the botom of the fabric means that the top is not threaded coreccty. I would sugest threading the top thread again all the way to the needle. After you have done that pull on the thread and lift and lower the presser foot. There should be tension when it is down and no tensoin when it is up. I allway do this before I sew on a machine. If you do not have tension on it when the presser foot is down you did not get ithe thread in the tension unit. If you have tension when it is up then your machine needs a upper tension release adjustement.
Hope this helps friend.
Other problems could be a small peace of broke needle it the race area(inspect this close).
If you adjusted your bobbin tension this may need to be reset.

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One other common mistake is to try and thread the top when the foot is down. You should only thread the top when the foot is up, otherwise there is a chance the thread will not lay correctly in the tension discs when you start to sew and consequently you get a poor start with loops underneath at the beginning of your run. By all means drop the foot when you're threading the needle, but always ensure it's up when threading the tension unit and takeup arm etc.

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