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Biro meat saw model 3334 3 phase can it ber wired to single phase

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No, you need a new motor or a converter, but in the case of one saw, it wouldn't be worth the conversion. Just find an old single phase motor that will fit height wise and you should be all set. The speed is the same, the direction can be switched and the HP should not matter much, 1/2 , 1, depends on what you find out there. They all should cut wood no problem. Hope this helps.

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SOURCE: same problem , black substance

not sure why but here is a link to the operating manual. it may help.

http://www.midwesternresearch.com/PDF/Model%203334%20Saw%20Manual.pdf

please let me know if i can help with this anymore.

thanks

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Dewalt radial arm saw GW1- Is it single phase or 3 phase


if the plug on the cord fits any other outlet in the house it will be single phase
if the cord is cut , then it will have only 3 wires if it is single phase
( active , neutral and ground )
if it has 4 or more wires it will be 3 phase
most saws running a 200 mm blade or around that size and used for home duty will be single phase
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On Hobart's website (www.hobartcorp.com) I found a manual and parts breakdown of your meat saw. There doesn't seem to be an adjustment knob like on most band saws to adjust the tracking of the blade on the wheels. If you go there select the Service & Parts tab, then the Manuals & Support tab. Half way down the page select "View or download operator manuals" then look for the "Click here to go directly to the Resource Center" link. Two more pages and you'll find a model number search box. 6614 will give you the parts breakdown and manual but neither indicate a way to adjust the wheels. Most likely you have a damaged bearing or wheel shaft that's causing one or both wheels to be out of alignment enough to make the blade track as you say it does. Their website also has a "Contact Us / Dearler Directory" link where you may be able to get more assistance on how to fix your saw.

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How can i get single phase power from my 3 phase generator


I have not wire this myself
Wiki says under heading of single-phase:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_power
Single-phase loads may be connected to a three-phase system in two ways. A load may be connected across two of the three phase conductors or a load can be connected from a live phase conductor to the system neutral. Single-phase loads should be distributed evenly between the phases of the three-phase system for efficient use of the supply transformer and supply conductors. Where the line-to-neutral voltage is a standard utilization voltage (for example in a 230 V/400 V system), individual single-phase utility customers or loads may each be connected to a different phase of the supply. Where the line-to-neutral voltage is not a common utilization voltage, for example in a 347/600 V system, single-phase loads must be supplied by individual step-down transformers.

So it sounds like you take 2 legs of the 3-phase.
or
Take one leg of the 3-phase and connect to neutral ... neutral could be a ground rod.

I would put a meter on that circuit before hooking up my power saw.

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Hobart model 5801 meat saw conversion from 3 phase to single phase can it be rewired or need a new motor ?


No, you need a new motor or a converter, but in the case of one saw, it wouldn't be worth the conversion. Just find an old single phase motor that will fit height wise and you should be all set. The speed is the same, the direction can be switched and the HP should not matter much, 1/2 , 1, depends on what you find out there. They all should cut wood no problem. Hope this helps.

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Can I wire a 3 phase motor to a residential service breaker panel, if so how.


Technically you could, but the operation would be horrible. 3 phase motors are used for industrial applications because there is little lapse in power and the motors don't ****, example: metal mills and smooth surfaces.

Unless you have all 3 phases from the pole xformer to your main panel, no.


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pull up the i.s. wiring code from that time
i.s. international standards.
the code change a few years ago

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Using Freud Super Dado set on PM2000, 3hp, single phase saw


Having used a Model 66 Powermatic for 25+ years, many times with a full 3/4" stack dado on the saw, I can't imagine the saw is at fault, unless there is some specific fault with the motor.

Granted, these new dado stacks with their anti-kickback fingers and four teeth per chipper instead of the customary two are heavier, and cause a greater load on the arbor, but it's a balanced load, and bringing it up to speed shouldn't be an issue. Consider the torque involved in ripping through two inches of solid oak, for example. So I would also rule out the dado set. I've seen many saws turn the same set, some running with only 1 1/2 hp and 110v extension cords. (Though I don't recommend this unless you're very patient.)

The three phase connection is worth some investigation, in my mind, as the likely culprit. I used to have a 5hp 3ph motor on my saw, and at the time had a second saw hooked up to the same power feed in the shop. We did what your electrician told you was possible, took a 230 (208) leg off the 3ph power. It's been many years, but it seems to me that the electrician who helped us hook this up at the time warned me that it had to connected in a specific manner, using particular leads, because of the nature of the 3 phase. This has something to do with the lack of a neutral, I believe, but I'm not an electrician. You might consult the following website for some further information regarding the specifics of this type of connection, and reference the following info: http://www.3phasepower.org/
1 Phase Loads on 3 Phase Power
Single-phase loads may be connected to a 3 phase system in two ways. This can be done either by connecting across two live conductors (a phase-to-phase connection), or by connecting between a phase conductor and the system neutral, which is either connected to the center of the Y (star) secondary winding of the supply transformer, or is connected to the center one winding of a delta transformer (High leg Delta system). Single-phase loads should be distributed evenly between the phases of the 3 phase system for efficient use of the supply conductors and supply transformer. Click here to read more about connecting a 1 phase load to a 3 phase power supply line.

If that's more than you wish to digest, I heartily recommend you consult an electrician accustomed to commercial industrial wiring. He ought to be able to take a quick look at the breaker box and the connection to the saw and sort you out.

The only other thing I can think you might be able to check on your own is the wiring configuration of the magnetic switch itself. It is turning off, you say. They must be rewired internally to conform with the particular power supply provided. There should be a wiring diagram inside the switch box or in your documentation that shows how to do this. I can remember changing the leads, and at one point changing the actual thermal breakers, when I moved from one shop to another over the years. That may have been when I had to change the 3ph motor for a 1ph one. If the wiring to the saw is correct, this might be the direction to look.

Short of loose drive belts, I can't think of anything else to offer you as a troubleshooting guide.
Let us know how this works out, and let me know if there's anything more I can do to help!

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