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DS10 with SBS PCI Expansion

We have a Compaq DS10 with a SBS PCI expansion connected and loaded with OpenVMS 7.1-2. When we add any type of network card DE500, DE504, etc...we get hangups and/or system freezes when trying to load TCPIP software. If we remove the network cards from the expansion the system will boot normally. Installing the network cards directly into the DS10 works fine. The DS10 has the latest firmware and the cards have been swapped for different ones in case we had a bad one. It appears that it might be caused by the order in which VMS starts certain drivers or software but we cannot pin it down. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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  • FbrTech07 Aug 01, 2008

    Our system is configured as follows: The DS10 contains the SBS PCI expansion board in slot 1, KZPCM in slot 2, KZPCA in slot 3 and a ELSA Gloria Synergy PBXGK in slot 4. In the expansion box we have a DE504 in slot 1, IEP11 GPIB-488 in slots 2 and 5 and a PBXDA Digi interface in slot 6. I can boot the system normally if I prevent the IEP11 driver from starting. I tried moving the cards around thinking that might help but it did not. I can also start the IEP11 driver from within VMS and no problems occur. It seems only when VMS starts it in a specific order does it cause problems. HP does support VMS....if you have a fat credit card.

  • FbrTech07 Aug 08, 2008

    I'd like to thank Dan for his input on this problem. It ultimately led to the diagnosis and repair of our booting problem. We ended up moving the IEP11 cards to slots 1 and 3, DE504 card in slot 2, and the Digi interface in slot 6 of the expansion. The system boots normally and we are testing the system with QVet.

  • Tim Babcock
    Tim Babcock May 11, 2010

    It would seem the HP would know the anwer to this or did they stop supporting VMS?

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Version 7.1-2 is an older version of the OS. I will have to check, but I think that V7.2 will resolve this. What version of TCP/IP are you using? Back in the day when I supported TCP and VMS, there were some timing issues that causes odd behavior. If you can provide the details about your configuration, I can check and get back to you. If necessary, an examination of a forced crashdump may be needed.

A rare opportunity to work with VMS again!!

Good stuff.
Dan

Posted on Aug 01, 2008

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  • ABRsvcs Aug 01, 2008

    Forgot to add...



    Please indicate what type of tape you have available for the dump if it is necessary.



    Thanks,

    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Aug 01, 2008

    I am running V7.3 at the moment. Let me restore your version and poke around. Worse case I'll need to get a crashdump from the "freeze". My job at HP (DEC/Compaq) was to resolve this type of problem, so I should be able to help. This may take a while as I'll need to try to either reproduce the problem or play machine and just examine the driver code. I'll be traveling for the next week, so give me some time. I'll update this ASAP.





    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Aug 08, 2008

    Thanks for the update. I think the IEP11 driver is rather old and is not hte most tollerant of timing issues. I plan on lookin up the code this weekend (just got back) and I'll try to provide a reason why this move worked for you.



    Dan

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Where can i buy a onchip usb2?


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http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIC-FR33E-L-MOTHERBOARD-CPU-LOT-10-/170633274365

Reference: Photo


To the far left side of the motherboard, is actually the Bottom of the motherboard, when installed in your computer case.

The two White long expansion slots you see, are PCI expansion slots.
If one is available, (Open), you can use a PCI USB adapter card.
This is but one example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850&CatId=511

Seem cheap? Nope. Good quality also. (You can also check the reviews)

Need guidance in installing?
1) Follow Anti-Static Precautions

Anti-Static Precautions:
Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit) the delicate hardware components inside the computer.

Computer on a table, computer unplugged from power, computer case open.

[Note* Always unplug the power to a computer AT the surge protector. NOT at the back of the computer. (Power Supply)
You can cause a power surge ]

2) TOUCH an unpainted surface, of the metal frame of the open computer case.
This action will relieve your body of Static.

Should you leave your computer in the middle of working on it, be SURE to Touch the metal frame again, upon your return.

3) Finding an open PCI slot look at the back of the computer. In the metal frame you will see slots going horizontally.
These are Expansion Slots.

You may have an add-on adapter card already installed, in one of the PCI slots.
The expansion slot cover for it is removed.

You should see expansion slot covers however, in the remaining expansion slots on the back of the computer metal framework.
Remove the one that corresponds with the PCI slot you wish to use.

Be aware that the PCI slot will not be directly in line, with the expansion slot.
When installing an add-on adapter card, you will see when the card is inserted in the PCI slot, the metal bracket on the add-on card, lines up with an adjacent expansion slot.

This will make more sense to you once you go to install the card.

[PCI USB adapter card is an add-on adapter card ]

Line the card up in the PCI slot. Note that there is a Locating Lug in the PCI slot, and a matching Locating Notch, on the PCI USB adapter card.

Also, at the same time line up the metal bracket of the PCI USB adapter card, with the metal framework of the computer case at the back.

Gently push the PCI USB adapter card down into the PCI slot.
Fasten the card's metal bracket to the computer's metal framework.

Post the computer manufacturer name, and model number, if you need guidance in opening the computer case. Post in a Comment.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
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Suggest use a USB adapter card.

More specifically a PCI USB adapter card.

Dell Support > Inspiron 530 Series Desktop PC > Owner's Manual,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/index.htm

In the list click on - Removing and Installing parts

1) Unplug the computer from power.
[Unplug FROM the surge protector, not the back of the computer. (Power Supply)
Unplugging from the back could lead to a power surge ]

2) Computer on a table open the computer case,
Click on - Removing the Computer Cover - in the list.

3) FOLLOW Anti-Static Precautions
Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit) the delicate hardware inside the computer.

Computer on a table, computer unplugged from power, computer case open.
TOUCH an unpainted surface, of the metal frame of the open computer case.
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Should you leave your computer in the middle of working on it, be SURE to Touch the metal frame again, upon your return.

4) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/parts.htm#wp1184332

Here you see an illustration of your motherboard. Oriented as it is in your computer case. (Just no hardware components, nor cables are attached)

At the bottom of the motherboard are 2 White long expansion slots.
In the illustration they are labeled by the numbers 21 and 22.
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At the back of the computer, located towards the bottom, are the Expansion Slots.
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If there is an add-on adapter card installed of course, one of the expansion slot covers will be removed.

Line up the PCI USB adapter card with the open PCI slot, you have chosen.
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Go to the back of the computer, and view the small metal bracket on the bottom right. Loosen the Thumbscrew, and swing the bracket out. (Thumbscrew is supposed to just loosen, not come out)

Remove the expansion slot cover for your PCI slot choice.
Install the PCI USB adapter card.
Note that there is a Locating Lug in the PCI slot, and a matching Locating Notch, on the PCI USB adapter card.

Line them up, then push the PCI USB card straight down into the PCI slot.
Also watch the metal bracket on the back of the PCI USB card.
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The top of the bracket has a half-moon notch, that lines up with a small 'dowel' on the computer case framework.
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Example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5606149&CatId=511


The last expansion slot you have is above the PCI-Express x1 slot.
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IP address change needed on a AlphaServer DS10


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$ MC LANCP <ret>

> SHOW DEVICE


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You mean will the Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 with 1GB of graphics memory, work in a Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC?

Yes.

The Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC has a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00757470&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=3245048

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One PCI Express x16 graphics.

NOTE*
Looking at the motherboard illustration, it is Wrong.
Shows - PCIEX1 (PCI E X1)
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A PCI-Express x1 slot has 36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

In comparison a PCI slot {White} has 124 contact pins. 62 on each side.

Looking at the photo of the supposed PCI-E x1 slot they show, the black PCI-Ex1 slot is longer than the white PCI slots.

It is a PCI-Express x16 slot with 164 pins. 82 on each side.



The Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 uses a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

So you know the graphics card will fit. Low-profile to boot.

Power requirement:
The Compaq Presario SR2020NX desktop computer comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
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Enough power for the computer, and the graphics card.
ATI graphics cards do not use as much power as a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

Concerned that the Asus graphics card uses DDR3 graphics ram memory, and the Presario SR2020NX uses DDR2 Sdram ram memory?

Don't be. The graphics cards graphics memory runs independent of the computer's ram memory.

Information on PCI-Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Top right of your page, blue Comment)

Regards,
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Hello Narvaar

I believe I've found what you need.

HERE is the OpenVMS home page

HERE is the support page for all the HP OpenVMS versions through 7.x & OpenVMS VAX 7.x

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