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Beater not turning but belt good. beater motor not turning but turns manually

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Hi Dan:

check both ends of the beater bar. Pet/Human hair, thread, strings and even dirt can really get wound up in between the plastic ends and the bar. It might look ok but it won't turn effortlessly. If you find that is the case, you might be able to fish the junk out but from experience it's just better to buy a new beater bar or roller part.

Posted on Mar 12, 2011

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Check your clutch to make sure it's engaged. There should be a knob on the foot of the vacuum that can be turned to stop the roller.

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Check that the belt is not too slack and that the brush bearings are not too tight, or that some lint or thread is caught around the brush shaft.

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