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Posted on Mar 06, 2011

2000 dakota 4.7L. When first started after sitting sounds like no oil in top motor. Sounds like valves chattering. Only last for about a second. Then starts up fine as long as it doesn't sit for awhile. Also inside filler tube is milky oil (water). Check dipstick and oil is fine. Is only in filler tube. Clean filler tube and drive, milky oils starts building up again.

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I had the same vehicle. The 4.7 oil filler tube was a design defect. I don't think there was an official recall on it, but in later years, there was a change to the design. Dodge did say that it was not a problem though. As far as the valves chattering, I had the same thing. Just takes a while for the oil to flow back up. A good resource for all of this is www.dodgedakotas.com. Does require a small membership but the information is good.

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