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Diagnostic meter on my water indicates that the lower element is bad but I am still getting hot waterm Bobby Becker

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Are you sure you posted question in correct catogory. Found it in AC problem section. Sounds like your talking about electric hot water heater.

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How do I check my hot water element?


1)Locate the upper heating element in the top access. The heating element is above the thermostat, and all you will see is a round disc with two wires attaching to the disk.
  • 2)Set your ohm meter to the X1 or RX 1 scale to measure the continuity of the heating element. Touch each of the ohm meter probes to each of the terminal screws on the heating element. A positive reading indicates a good element. If there is no reading, the element is faulty.
  • 3)Test for a possible short in the heating element with the ohm meter. Touch one ohm meter probe to one of the heating element terminals. Touch the other ohm meter probe to the bracket that secures the heating element. If you get a reading of zero, the element is good. If there is any positive reading on the scale, the element is grounding itself and will require replacement.
  • 4)Test the lower heating element exactly as the upper heating element.
  • 5)Place the access doors back on the water heater tank, and secure them with the screws.

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    Hot water has slowly diminished over time. A hot shower is down to 5-10 min from 20-30 min. I'm told this may be the lower element going bad and to test that. That is unfamiliar territory to me but am up...


    the lower element is located behind the lower panel. Take both screw out and remove the panel. Insulation will probably be in the way so you will have to push it out of the way. The element is round on the endand has two wires going to it and will probably have screws you will have to loosen to take the wires off. (Before you do anything, disconnect the power.) Take the two wires off of the element. You will need a cheap ohm meter. Check for ohms across the element.(One needle on one terminal and the other needle on the other terminal. If you get no ohms or your meter does not move , the element is open (bad) If the ohm meter moves, your element is still good. If you have to replace the element, you will have to turn the water off, drain the water heater, and it takes a special wrench you can buy at home depo to screw the element out of the water heater.

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    I have a 40 gal electric water heater, but have insufficient hot water. The cold water intake pipe on top of the heater is very hot but when I turn on a hot water tap, it gets cold quickly. replaced dip...


    You will need an amp meter. I suspect that the lower heating element is out or the thermostat.

    Most water heater have a upper and lower element. The bottom is the main work horse.

    Take the lower access door off and you can get to the wires to use a clamp on Amp meter. You should get a reading of 10 + amp if it is working. You can check the thermostat with the volt meter also to make sure you are getting voltage to the element . You should have 220 volts across the two wire attached to the element. The elements are not to hard to change. You will need to shut the power Off and the Cold Water off. Drain the tank to get below the bottom element and you will need to get a special wrench to unscrew the old element out of the tank. Hope this Helps

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    Hot water runs out after one shower


    You say the hot water runs out after one shower.
    You posted under electric heater.

    In case you have a gas heater:
    With gas heater
    , the flame quality could be bad because of restricted air flow or dirty burner, the control valve and thermostat could be bad, the air intake could be clogged, or the water heater is full of sediment and the flame is burning all the time and unable to heat much water.

    With electric heater, the lower element is probably burned out and bottom filled with sediment, but thermostats could be bad, or you could have shorted wire.

    Narrow down the suspects
    If water heater makes some hot water then upper element is working.

    Three remaining suspects are upper thermostat, lower thermostat, lower element, and possibly a loose wire

    Check screw terminals for signs of burning and loose wires. Especially check lower element.

    Let's test lower element.
    Turn off power.
    Remove both wires from lower element.
    Test across both screws with a continuity tester.
    Continuity tester is available at hardware store, or you can make one with battery, wire and a flashlight bulb.
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    The continuity tester has a battery and when light comes on, it says the circuit is complete.
    Test1) Test across both screws on lower element with continuity tester.
    If light comes on then element is good, but element has to pass one more test.
    Test2) Test each screw on element to any bare metal part of water heater.
    If light does NOT come on with second test, then element is good.
    Light ON first test. Light OFF second test. Then element is probably good. But test is not fail-proof without using a meter.

    I'm betting the lower element is burned out and you need to replace lower element. And you may need to vacuum out the sediment.
    http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-clean-sediment-out-of-electric-water-heater.html

    Now if lower element is good, then the easiest thing is to do is replace both thermostats. Buy generic thermostats at hardware store for $25. After replacing both thermostats, the water heater will probably work. If there is still a problem, then the lower element was not as good as test showed, and it should be replaced also.
    http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

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    If I understand correctly, you have an electric water heater.
    The water heater is dual element and has 2 access panels on water heater.
    You run out of hot water quickly.
    And the reset is stuck down.

    First of all, if the reset button is tripped, the water heater will produce NO hot water.
    The reset, or ECO (electricity cut off), is designed to cut off all power to water heater.
    So if you have some hot water, then ECO reset is fine.
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