Question about Audio & Video Receivers
This very much depends on the type (and vintage) of the
Very old turntables used a system of mechanical CAMs,
slaved to the main plater. Once engaged (usually through
a hinged/retracted gear-tooth), the platter would spin the cam,
which in turn would lift the tone arm, move it back home,
shut off the power and disengage itself after one complete
This system could be mechanically triggered with the power off,
just by swinging the tone arm towards the center, and spinning
the platter manually by hand. To fix it you had to make internal
mechanical adjustments, or replace worn out levers, wheels,
bearings, springs, etc...
A more modern turntable will use electrical sensors,
such as a micro-switch under the tonearm gimbals,
which is triggered as the tonearm swings towards the center.
A second switch is coupled to the stop/ return button.
Once the mech. is triggered, it can derive its power from the
plater (as before) or use a separate servo motor to lift
and return the tone-arm. The viscously damped cueing
mechanism can also be involved in lifting the arm during
the return cycle.
At the hi-tech extreme, a microprocessor can control the
whole works through the use of selenoids and stepping
motors with optical or magnetic sensors to trigger it,
position it and disengage it.
During all testing, remove the record and cover the
stylus with its protective gate to prevent damage.
If the stylus slides out of the cartridge, like it did on the
Shure cartridges, remove the stylus gently and put it in
a safe place to avoid damaging it. You do NOT want to
ever drop the stylus on the spinning rubber platter surface.
But leave the main head and cartridge in place for normal
Turn off your amplifier, or turn down the volume to zero, to
prevent damage to your ears and the speakers if the needle
does fall when it shouldn't
1) Assuming that this is a fairly modern turntable, with
a gimbal mounted tone arm (the large double hung ring
bearing at the back for swinging both ways) and a
counter weight for setting the stylus pressure...
and possibly an anti-skating adjustment as well...
It is fair to assume that the cuing lever is what lifts
the arm vertically, regardless of the swing return mechanics.
2) The premature stylus drop (during return) is therefore
caused either by a cuing defect, or by lift timing,
either mechanical or electronic.
The stylus weigh setting is NOT an issue here, that
is determined by the stylus and cartridge specifications,
and must be set correctly to prevent record and stylus
Note that both too much and to little weight is BAD.
Too much weigh is obvious, but too little will cause
mis-tracking, distortion and premature record wear.
Similarly, and incorrect tracking pitch or yaw will also
cause early damage, as will incorrect anti-skating for
a particular stylus pressure.
3) First of all, test the cuing lever at several different tone-
arm angles, to see if it stays up, or droops down with time.
If there is a problem, check the springs, viscous damping..
Take the ****** apart from below, and see what gives.
Is it mechanical, hydraulic, or electronic ?
4) If it is electronic, you have a control/ timing problem,
which requires a service manual and a qualified electronic
tech to fix it.
You should be able to check any sensors, switches
or motor yourself, though.
5) If the cuing lift system is mechanical, check the levers
What is driving it ?
Is it broken ?
Is worn out ?
Is it out of adjustment ?
Is it slipping ?
Is it stuck ?
Is one of the springs all stretched or missing ?
6) If the lift is hydraulic or pneumatic, check for leaks.
7) If the manual lift seems to work, but the automatic return
what is controlling it ?
how is it linked it to the arm return mech ?
Is there a coordination/timing problem ?
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Posted on Jul 01, 2008
on page 8 of the above service manual for your model it shows 4 electrical switches that tell the computer what 'state' the mechanism is in at any given time. Either one or more of the switches are intermittant or the mechanism has dried up grease that is slowing down the operation and basically gumming up the works. the old grease would have to be removed and replaced when it is causing binding. The switch just to the right of where is says "microswitch ksf-023" is an 'open air' type and so would be the most likely suspect. it simply needs to be cleaned with a super fine file designed only for cleaning switch contacts. THIS SERVICE SHOULD ONLY BE PERFORMED BY QUALIFIED PERSONNEL ONLY!!!!!
Posted on Feb 11, 2009
I have also had this problem with the same model turntable. I opened mine up and the problem seems to have been that the grease on the arm lift and cueing lever was gumming up the linkage between the two. (I suspect that my turntable hadn't been used in some time.) I managed to free up the parts by manually working the the arm lift (pressing it down) several times. I'm not sure that I needed to open up the chasis for this fix but it did help me to see what was going on. Good luck with yours.
Posted on Jul 19, 2009
Your needle (stylus) is either worn out or not seated properly. If you continue to try using it without the problem being corrected, it will ruin your records. You can check it to see if it's worn out by dragging your finger over it, lightly, from back to front only. It should feel like a small pin. It should also be seated into the groove on the tonearm. If this doesn't correct the problem, replace it.
Posted on Sep 08, 2009
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Make a note of the tracking force setting.
Make sure the turntable is level.
Unplug the power to the turntable.
Using the tonearm elevation control, raise the tonearm.
Manually move the tonearm in toward the platter.
Manually rotate the platter ClockWise a few turns to disengage any cueing mechanisms.
Set the Stylus Pressure/Tracking setting to 0.
Disengage the tonearm elevation control. The tonearm will either float or drop. This is why we have no power, just in case it hits the platter.
Adjust the counterweight until the tonearm floats exactly horizontal. Use the flat portion of the tonarm rest as a gauge.
Return the tonearm to its rest.
Dial in the prescribed tracking force on the Stylus Pressure/Tracking control. Play records.
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