HP Compaq Evo Notebook N600c PC Notebook
Problem for HP Compaq Evo Notebook N600c PC Notebook

Compaq laptop problem




By tmac1 on Jul 18, 2008

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Laptop shuts off without warning while on battery power. Can then reboot
but same thing happens repeatedly even though battery shows plenty of time left. Happens while using and when idle.
Battery charges OK and contacts look OK. Bought new battery but same problem.
Power save options are set to never turn off. Unit runs OK on AC power and runs OK on battery in Windows Safe mode but problem returns on booting normally. Also noticed lately that AC and battery icons are missing from system tray.
Compaq Evo N600C with Windows XP Pro SP2. Updates are current. Bought used and believe unit was upgraded to XP from Windows 2000.
Comments:

Jul 18, 2008

- Hi WV,

I have uninstalled Norton anti-virus. That's all I had, I didn't have the full suite.

I think the battery problem might be fixed. I had three sessions this morning of 45 min - 1 hour on battery with no problems. Usually on the second or third power on it will quit after a few minutes.

I turned off Error Reporting as you said.

tmac1

Jul 18, 2008

- My network connections show 2 icons:

Internet Gateway

Internet Connection
Connected
Internet Connection

LAN Or High-Speed Internet

Local Area Connection 2
Connected, Firewalled
Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection #2

Jul 18, 2008

- I have noticed that the Casheman system tray info shows up sometimes and sometimes it dosen't since turning Error Reporting off and back on yesterday.

Jul 18, 2008

- I am getting the Casheman info OK now with Error Reporting off. Is Avast better than AVG? I am already running it on my W2K tower.

Jul 19, 2008

- Sorry to hear about Laura's mom. It's always a difficult time when losing a parent. I hope she is doing alright.

I can find Avast and will install it.

Yes, I have installed sp27129. That is the BIOS I have now. I believe that is the last one. There is one other (sp28069) but the ROM family is different from what I have.

Jul 19, 2008

- I have Mobility Radeon for display adapter.

Jul 19, 2008

- I have already run that update from your earlier instructions.

Jul 19, 2008

- I downloaded and ran 2 display updates:

sp20678 and sp27665

Jul 19, 2008

- Hi WV,

I installed Avast and it went OK with no complaints from AVG. I ran a boot scan and there were no infected files in the Chest, but there are 3 system files:

kernel32.dll C:\WINDOWS\system32 4/16/2007 8:52:53 AM 7/19/2008 8:30:11 AM
winsock.dll C:\WINDOWS\system32 8/23/2001 5:00:00 AM 7/19/2008 8:30:13 AM
wsock32.dll C:\WINDOWS\system32 8/4/2004 1:56:48 AM 7/19/2008 8:30:14 AM
What does this mean?

tmac1

Jul 19, 2008

- I see where the system files in the Avast Chest are backups. That's all I have in there.

I have AVG still running. Should I disable or uninstall it? Neither program is complaining.

Jul 19, 2008

- OK, I will work on this.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, I have reinstalled the ePower Management update. I have all of the new tabs and options settings.

These are the updates I have done so far:

2 BIOS updates: sp21458, sp27129 (current)
1 Battery BIOS update sp27390 (ran and it said "No Update Needed")
2 display updates: sp20678, sp27665
1 ePower Management update: sp22688

I also found and downloaded an application called HP Setup Utility (sp28533) that lets you change BIOS settings using the Windows interface. I installed it but haven't tried it yet.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, I have uninstalled AVG. The boot up is quicker and the system tray looks better now. Any updates I can get I will put on. You were also going to show me how to turn off ICS.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK. I have been looking at all the properties for my network connection and don't see anything about ICS. I did find a services tab that said "services that other users can access" but there wasn't anything listed. There is also some tabs with check boxes for services but nothing is checked.

Jul 20, 2008

- Yes, I have a "Network Connections" icon.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, I have a short list of items with check boxes. There is no Internet Connection Sharing listed.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, that's the dialog box I have. There's no ICS listed.

Jul 20, 2008

- Wouldn't they have to know your password?

Jul 20, 2008

- I mean the wireless code password?

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, I changed the ICS setting to manual and still got the firewall warning. When I turned it on it changed the services setting back to automatic.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, I have installed the keyboard updates.

Jul 20, 2008

- OK, thanks.

Jul 20, 2008

- Hi WV,

I still have the battery problem. The laptop shut off again after about 10 minutes of power on.

Jul 21, 2008

- I have installed the Diagnostics for Windows. I started running a basic test but the laptop was getting very warm as the air conditioning in my house is not working right. I cancelled it and will run later when it is cooler inside.

Jul 21, 2008

- The diagnostics were pegging the CPU at 100% but they were running OK. CPU temp was 75 C. I'm going to take it to a cooler part of the house and try again. The cooling pad helps but laptop still gets warm during heavy use.

Jul 21, 2008

- I ran the basic test and everything passed with no errors.

Jul 21, 2008

- I ran a complete test and everything passed with no errors. It has some battery information and says that it needs calibration:

Product . . . . . . . . Evo N600c
Date . . . . . . . . . . 7/20/2008
Time . . . . . . . . . . 8:47:43PM
Number of processors . . 1
Processor . . . . . . . Intel at 1.200GHz
Power Source . . . . . . AC
Life Percent . . . . . 100%
Battery Status . . . . High
Battery 1 . . . . . Present
Chemistry: LIon
Charge Capacity: 45500 (milli-Watt Hour)
Needs Calibration

Jul 21, 2008

- Here is my NIC card info:

Adapter Number 2
Adapter Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
DNS Host Name evo-n600c
DNS Servers
IP Address 0.0.0.0
IP Subnet 0.0.0.0
Default IP Gateway
DHCP Enabled Yes
DHCP Server 192.168.1.1
DHCP IP Address 192.168.1.101
DHCP Lease Obtained 7/21/2008 8:13:05 AM
DHCP Lease Expires 7/22/2008 8:13:05 AM
Status Code 0
Adapter Status This device is working properly.
Adapter Type Ethernet 802.3
MAC Address 00:02:A5:B6:51:FD
Connection Status Connected
Connection Speed 100.0 Mbps

Jul 21, 2008

- Here is the wireless card info:

Device Type Network adapters
Device Name Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter #2 - Packet Sc
Description Packet Scheduler Miniport
Manufacturer Microsoft
Location
Driver Provider Microsoft
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Status Code 0
Status Message OK
Class Guid {4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Device ID ROOT\MS_PSCHEDMP\0004

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Jul 21, 2008

- OK, I updated the NIC card and it looks like it worked. Do I need to reboot for this?

Jul 21, 2008

- Do I need to have the wireless card in to do the updates?

Jul 21, 2008

- The first wireless update ran OK. The second one, the instructions say to insert the WL100 PC card into the computer. Do I use my Realtek card?

Jul 22, 2008

- I don't have the Compaq Multiport Module installed on this laptop. I ran the last network update and it confirmed that it is not there.

Jul 22, 2008

- Glad to hear the family is doing OK.

I have the regular PC card slots on the side of the laptop. I believe the last update is for the special unit on the top right hand side for this model. It has a removable grey cover. That is for Bluetooth etc. That is not installed on my machine. The wireless card is generic that I got from the same person as the laptop. It has no brand name on the box or card. The Realtek name shows up on installation of the software driver.

Jul 22, 2008

- The Realtek card is an 802.11g at 54 Mbps. Here are the specs from the users manual:

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
General
Radio Technology IEEE 802.11b Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (DSSS)
IEEE 802.11g Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing (OFDM)
Interface PC Card: 32-bit CardBus, PCI Adapter: 32-bit PCI bus
Data Transfer Rate 1, 2, 5.5, 6, 9, 11, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, 54Mbps
Receiver Sensitivity 54Mbps: Typical -70dBm @ 10% PER (Packet Error Rate)
11Mbps: Typical -86dBm @ 8% PER (Packet Error Rate)
Transmit Power 802.11b: 15±2dBm
802.11g: 13±2dBm
Frequency Range 2412 ~ 2484 MHz ISM band (channels 1 ~ 14)
Modulation Schemes DBPSK/DQPSK/CCK/OFDM
Channels 1~11 channels (FCC), 1~13 channels (ETSI),
1~14 channels (MKK-Japan)
Media Access
Protocol
CSMA/CA with ACK
Security 64/128-bits WEP Encryption, WPA-PSK, WPA2-PSK, WPA, WPA2
Diagnostic LED PC Card: Link, ACT, PCI Adapter: Link
Antenna
PC Card: Integrated printed dual diversity antennas
PCI: 2dBi dipole antenna
Physical and Environmental
Driver Support Windows 98, ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP
Temperature Operating: 0° ~ 40° C, Storage: -10° ~ 70° C
Humidity 10% ~ 95% RH, no condensation
Dimensions PC Card:, 115 x 54 x 8.7 mm, PCI Adapter: 13 x 121 x 21.6
Certifications FCC Part 15.247 for US, ETS 300 328 for Europe

I have it in now and it is working OK. It shows up in device manager as "Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter #2"

Jul 22, 2008

- Here is the WinAudit info:

Device Type Network adapters
Device Name Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter #2
Description Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter
Manufacturer Realtek
Location PCI bus 3, device 0, function 0
Driver Provider Realtek
Driver Version 5.1097.201.2007
Driver Date 2-1-2007
Status Code 0
Status Message OK
Class Guid {4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Device ID PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8185&SUBSYS_818510EC&REV_20\5&26B237F1&0&0018F0

I have the card in now but before I was using cable.

Jul 22, 2008

- Hi WV,

I've been doing some research. Realtek is the maker of the driver software. I don't know about the card, it has no brand name. The company is Realtek Semiconductor Corp. and they develop IC's. The "Realtek 8185 Wireless LAN Adaptor" is the device driver name.

Jul 22, 2008

- I didn't test the battery function when I got the laptop until after I had installed the wireless card. I had used the card in a Dell Lattitude before with no problems.

Jul 22, 2008

- Your link is giving me a page not found. What do you mean USB? I have only used the standard cable input for networking.

Jul 23, 2008

- I don't know how those guest entries got there. I did the same thing to reply as usual.

I don't see your new link ...nothing is highlighted.

Jul 23, 2008

- Yes, send me the modem update.

Jul 24, 2008

- I don't have a cd burner that I know of. My tower is CD Rom and my laptop is CD/DVD Rom. I can link to my tower thru the router.

Jul 24, 2008

- Thats OK, don't worry about it. I got this laptop from a local reseller with just the basics. The person I dealt with is a tech at a local company. I called him about the battery problem and he gave me some things to check. I called him back a couple of times but no reply after that.

I have the shared files folders and can also access the regular My Documents for each computer on the network. I can transfer files back and forth whenever I need to.

Jul 24, 2008

- OK. Here is my disk drive info:

Device Type Disk drives
Device Name HTS424040M9AT00
Description Disk drive
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Location 0
Driver Provider Microsoft
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Status Code 0
Status Message OK
Class Guid {4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Device ID IDE\DISKHTS424040M9AT00_________________________MA2OA72A\5&15F9542B&0&0.0.0

Jul 24, 2008

- Having problems with the new Realtek wireless driver. Can't get it to connect to my WEP network. It only connects thru non-encrypted networks.

Jul 24, 2008

- I don't see any disk drive information in the BIOS screens.

Jul 25, 2008

- It's a Hitachi 40 GB model HTS424040M9AT00 disk drive. I got the info from ebay. The model number is displayed in Windows Device Manager / Disk drives.

Jul 25, 2008

- I got the wireless connection working OK. I had to go into the router and change the network key. The old key number wouldn't work with the new driver. I rebooted the router and set my network to the new key and it connected.

Jul 26, 2008

- OK. Will do those and let you know.

Jul 26, 2008

- Hi WV,

I need a link for the system enhancements. Thanks.

Jul 26, 2008

- I have already done the power management update (sp22688).

Jul 29, 2008

- Hi WV,

No, I didn't get the 49 MB update. You didn't put in the link.

Jul 29, 2008

- OK, Thanks.

Jul 29, 2008

- The enhancements update installed OK. I noticed the documentation said for SP1 systems? I have SP2.

Jul 29, 2008

- OK, I will work on these updates.

Jul 30, 2008

- Hi WV,

I have downloaded and installed the lid switch utility. I noticed that on the XPSP3 link site it says not to use the download button if you are updating only one computer. That is for updating multiple computers on a network and to use the windows update facility for a single machine.

Jul 30, 2008

- I have downloaded and installed XPSP3. All went OK. I had to download using Win XP as it wouldn't work using Win 2K.

Jul 31, 2008

- Yes, I only have the basic disk defragmenter in system tools.

Jul 31, 2008

- OK, will do. By the way, I was looking at the wireless network connection properties the other day and under one of the tabs there is a check box for internet connection sharing. It was not checked.

Jul 31, 2008

- OK, I have the BoostSpeed program and have run the disk and registry defrags.

Jul 31, 2008

- Yes, I used the laptop and downloaded to the SanDisk drive. I then copied the file to a folder on the C drive and executed it. I did this all in one logon session and the laptop was running the whole time. I checked the system information afterwards and it said Service Pack 3. I tried downloading using Win 2K but it would stop after 5 minutes and leave a small executable that wouldn't run.

I have 816 MB free on my tower and 29.1 GB free on my laptop.

I also tried the system file checker again and it is still stopping and prompting for a WinXP disk.

Aug 05, 2008

- Hi WV,

I have searched all folders including hidden and subfolders and I don't have the winnt32.exe file. I don't have a C:\Windows\i386 or C:\Winnt\i386 folder.

I took the laptop to Office Depot a couple of days ago as they were offering a free PC checkup analysis. They load a program and run it and you get to keep the results file. It says pretty much what I already know about the hardware; not enough memory, etc. It did say that I am running 58 services which is too many. It recommends 50 or less. It also made some suggestions for configuration. If you want I can list them for you.

Aug 05, 2008

- I haven't tested the battery function since the last changes so I will do that. I also came across someone on the internet that had the same laptop as mine with the same problem. He found that when he had something in a usb port; a flash drive or a usb mouse, the problem seemed to go away. I could always try that too.

Aug 05, 2008

- OK, I will do some testing and let you know. You can go ahead and give me the instructions for the registry. I did a little bit of registry editing in Windows 98 using regedit. I had instructions on how to remove some leftover uninstall files.

Can you explain how the Service Packs work? Are they pretty much new systems or just some file updates? Thanks.

Aug 05, 2008

- OK, thanks. I feel much better about the system files.

I disabled the Error Reporting Service again. We had turned it off before but it seemed to cause the Casheman icons to not show up in the system tray so we turned it back on. The icons have still been ocassionally missing with it on and I don't think it's related. They showed up OK after I turned off ERS.

Aug 07, 2008

- Hi WV,

I have been testing on the battery and it looks like that user is right. The shutdown problem goes away when I have the flash drive in the usb port. I started testing Tuesday without the flash drive and the laptop shut down twice within the first 30 minutes. I put the flash drive in and have had no problems since.

Aug 07, 2008

- It has run for 1 hour + each time I powered up. I have gone thru two battery cycles.

Aug 07, 2008

- The laptop will run for 3.5 hours before needing a re-charge. I only powered it up for 1 hour at a time for testing. It seems like the problem is more likely to show up on a second or third power on (if it doesn't shut ndown the first time).

I have no issues with AC power except for one time when it was in some kind of power on / off loop. I unplugged it and took out the battery and put it back in and had no problems after that.

Aug 08, 2008

- OK, the laptop is running good but boots kind of slow. I have also noticed some kind of error message that flashes too fast to read at shutdown.

On the winnt32.exe, I looked for it back when we first started the upgrades and could'nt find it then either. I will see if I can locate a Win XP CD.

Aug 08, 2008

- Did a search on winnt.exe and it was not found.

Best Solution

posted on Aug 11, 2008
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Hi WV,

I am still testing on the battery and so far no problems with the flash drive in. The slow booting is due I think to Avast updating the virus database at the same time. Otherwise it boots OK. I am getting an error at shutdown "SynTPLpr failed to initialize properly" I have also noticed that I don't need to click on the user login at boot time, only place the cursor over the name and it takes off by itself.

Solution #2

posted on Jul 18, 2008
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worldvet

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OK, thanks. This is getting tiring eventhough staff here says they have this problem worked out, the wreakage was considerable. My ranking which is hard to come by at this level was decimated.

Did you get the Error Reporting service instructions on how to disable it?

Have you uninstalled Norton completely? Leave AVG in place until I get you the link to Avast.

I'll help you get ICS stopped. This is normally listed in the properties for Network, inside Control Panel. It would be listed as a service in the window. You select it and then choose uninstall.

Go ahead and rate this fixed so it doesn't get abused again. I only hope we don't run into this problem again this coming weekend.

Thanks.
WV

ps I'll be looking at what updates to apply next.

Comments:

Jul 18, 2008

- Avast is better. Its has a smaller impact on system resources and covers more bases. As you may know, you can schedule a boot time virus scan. This is the best way to scan for viruses, before the Windows environment loads.

You weren't looking at what I'd hoped for in Network properties. I'll be more detailed tomorrow.

Laura's Mom passes away and Laura leaves for home for four days and is taking her two girls (grown and out of home) with her. I have to stay here for my business and keep the cats fed, etc. And, save us some money doing it. I hope to get her Dad out here for a vacation this Fall.

Today was one incredible busy day, last two have been. Usually my business starts getting busy again in August, last three years that's changed. I even got a premises security upgrade job too.

Send you more tomorrow. If you don't hear form me its okay to post and ask.

WV

Jul 18, 2008

- The Bios update will certainly help with the Battery issue. I'll find the update for the ePower Management and post that for you.

Do you need instructions on finding avast? It's now at Avast.com

Go there and select Home Edition, then download it, while that's downloading go back to avast.com and find the registration page. Register you package and it will be emailed to you. Open that email and then open notepad.exe from Start, Run, (type) notepad.exe
paste your license here and save it to the directory you will move the Avast executable to, such as c:\software\avast\

Install Avast. If you get errors from AVG onboard, uninstall AVG. Reinstall Avast. Avast will want to restart, choose No, Cancel or later. You'll see the blue A in your system tray, right click this, choose the second option from the top "Start Avast Antivirus", the first thing you see is the Register License box, copy and paste your new license into this then choose OK and let Avast Start up. Once it has, drop the arrow down list and select Schedule Bootime Virus Scan, or words to that effect. Now, reboot your PC and keep your laptop on hand. When it finds something, like malware, choose Move to Chest, and also do this for any system files. When prompted choose "Always" these two actions.Now you can go do something else. It is normal for Avast to NOT be able to examine password protected CAB files, such as those from Microsoft. Don't worry about those.

Once you are in Windows again, right click the blue A and select Start Avast Antivirus and let the program window launch. Once its done scanning your memory, click on the Virus Chest and see if anything is in there. If there is, write those into a notepad file and post those to me. We'll see if you had any really nasty things on your machine or not.

WV

Jul 18, 2008

- We are coming up on another weekend and even though the Staff had this site down for repairs late last night, none of us, including them are too certain someone may try to pull off the shenanigans again.

So, please rate this thread fixed to lock it down.

BTW, the smoke here is finally abating. Laura has left for Montana and I'm hoping for a normal weekend on this board, Man, I sure hope so as we are almost done with your machine.

Nothing is going to please me more than to see this laptop of yours running as it should.

WV

Jul 18, 2008

- Remind me if I don't send you the instructions for turning off ICS on your machine. No one needs to connect through your laptop to access the internet, and this will keep kids from riding around town trying to find access to the Net through PC like yours, no matter how protected you are. I have tools for hacking my way into systems and I use them Ethically to test wireless systems for clients such as doctors and dentists, that sort of thing where they are now subject to HIPPA.

This is a list of the categories where updates are available.

» Application - Multimedia
» BIOS
» Driver - Audio
» Driver - Display
» Driver - Graphics
» Driver - Keyboard, Mouse and Input Devices
» Driver - Modem
» Driver - Network
» Driver - Printer
» Firmware
» Operating System - Enhancements
» Operating System - Enhancements and QFEs
» Software - Internet Access
» Software - Management
» Software - Multimedia
» Software - Solutions
» Software - System Management
» Utility

I'll post the last Bios update to you but as you said I do believe you have the latest on board already. Its just that its not easy for me to check what you sent against what is available and know.

Do you have and have you installed this Soft Paq

sp27129.exeJust let me know.

I'll be in and out as I go to this Pizza store to meet with the owner.

WV

Jul 19, 2008

- Thanks.

Right, on the bios. I'll start sending you updates for your other components.

Frankly, I have my doubts about this website and the thrashing its taken from some disgruntled former employees. I hope things remain sane. Weekends used to be a great time to get some things done, especially for the customers.

Can you go to Control Panel, Display and tell me which display adapter you have, Radeon or ATI?

Thanks.

Jul 19, 2008

- Download this file here to a sub Folder among the others you'ved created called Display and then just double click it to start the update.

WV

Jul 19, 2008

- Oh, okay. Just tell me which ones you have downloaded.
WV

Jul 19, 2008

- Avast make a backup of these critical system files that are at risk to a serious virus attack. They are here as a backup.

Which other updated files have you downloaded before. And, I was thinking that it may not be a bad idea to reinstall these drivers now that your bios is updated properly.

I just wanted to point out that its ironic that HP does give up on updating a lot of things including the bios even when it could be tweaked a little more.

So, let me know what you have in the download folders of updates so far so I don't have you duplicating effort.

HOWEVER, go ahead and reinstall the ePower Management update which is depended on the Bios being updated and which was addressed in one of the Bios updates. After you done this, and posted the updates you already have. We'll see what's new in your Power Management interface. There should be a series of settings for when you are on battery and are on A/C. These would include actions such as 'when the lid is closed' to standby, sleep, and hibernation.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- You can uninstall AVG, its just using system resources and memory.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- OK. I start posting the updates for the rest of your laptop.

It may seem superfluous to do this, for audio and glide pad, but you would be surprised what each update actually accomplishes, there is usually a fix to your registry beside updating the driver itself.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- Go to this page, and download the audio update to a subFolder called Audio, and install it.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- On your desktop, do you have a network icon?

Jul 20, 2008

- Right click, My Network Properties. You should then see: Local Area Connection in a list. Right click LAC and choose Properties. Now you should see a list of services installed. One of these should be Internet Connection Sharing, select that and click on uninstall.



WV

Jul 20, 2008

- You want to see this dialog box.



In this list of installed services should be the Internet Connection Sharing.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- Alright, I need to think. But, I'm thinking to disable is in services. You see, this makes your laptop vulnerable to a hacker sitting in a car down the block from you, or even next door.

Jul 20, 2008

- I list myself as an Ethical Hacker. That is to say, I test the security of wireless networks for businesses. To do this I use tools off the Internet any hacker can access. So, your password is only as strong as you make it. Should you be using the code under your modem from the phone company, all someone has to do is break in without a trace, write the coded down and their done.

I suggest business use pass phrases and I get them from an English to Latin Latin to English dictionary at the library to get a pass phrase. There are password generator but those in use require you to write it down somewhere. Most people write it down and tape it under their laptop. That's the most common and first place to look.

So, anyway. You can check and or make your ICS manual which will be okay with your Firewall.

Right click My Computer, select Manage, select Services, find ICS, make it manual and not automatic.

Let me know, but I'm taking a break for Dinner and I have to go out and drop off some paperwork to a business that's a restaurant and this is when the owner is in.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- Alright. I'll figure out what's going on with your firewall later, if it needs to be changed at all. I think the SP3 will take care of most of this anyway.

The following downloads should go into a suFolder called Keyboard. Install them when they're downloaded, one at a time.

This one.
Then, this one.
And finally this one.

Jul 20, 2008

- Hi, To put it mildly things are not suitable to doing business here on a Saturday once again. Fired off several emails to the powers that be about this situation.

There isn't much more to download until I find the single source download so you can transfer XPSP3 from your tower to you laptop.

See you tomorrow,
WV

Jul 20, 2008

- Wold you remind me on this battery. I know you cleaned the contact and all that. Is this a new battery? yes? as I recall. Did you have the same problem before? with an older battery.

Do you know you can boot up your laptop on A/C wihtout the battery being inserted?

We'll still proceed with the updates to get those all ruled out.

Being a computer tech is like being a logician we have to start with the obvious and then rule out each and every source one by one. Sometimes this is really tedious and rather tiring, but the only process that works.

So, I'll send you the final updates to install and get the url for the single download of the XPSP3 you can transfer over to your laptop with the memory stick. I've downloaded the SP3 onto one of my four computers and all is okay.

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- Have I sent you the update for your Network card?

Use WinAudit or Right Click My Computer, click on Properties, go to Hardware, click on Device Manager, your Network Adapter will be listed but his may only be the one in use, such as your wireless adapter. HP has updates for your Bluetooth adapter, this can connect to a wirelsss phone and transfer ringtones you download, an Odessey Client (don't know what that is yet), your Mobil Pro Wireless deice, the software for that, your onboard Network Interface Card (that is the large socket that looks like an oversized modem port. There is a modem update too, do you ever use dialup anymore?

WV

Jul 20, 2008

- BTW, we are getting thunder storms, have lost power a lot and my DSL service has gone down several times. So, don't be a bit surprised if you don't hear from me in a timely manner until this all passes.

WV

Jul 21, 2008

- Go to this page to download the latest Diagnostic Utility to a subFolder called Disagnostics. It can be installed and run from windows or installed from 4 diskettes.

Here are the release notes:
Diagnostics for Windows will display information about the computer's hardware and software configuration and test the computer to ensure it is operating properly.

This may or may not provide information on your battery which I believe has a bad chip inside.

Jul 21, 2008

- That's odd, with your cooling pad. Still, let your instincts guide you always.

Jul 21, 2008

- OK. These test are good for system hardware errors. They aren't intended to tests batteries definitively.

thanks for running it. I saw it and its good to have one.

Can you send me the info on your NIC card using WinAudit.

thanks,
WV

Jul 21, 2008

- Post to me the wireless card/built in module information too. Then,
Download this file here to a location with a subFolder named Network and then a subFolder of that called NIC
(If you get stuck somewhere contact me the usual way first, and explain what and why.)

Create a Restore Point

Copy, Paste and Print all the info below:

Your Laptop Local Address and Gateway/Server address
Default IP Gateway
DHCP Enabled Yes
DHCP Server 192.168.1.1
DHCP IP Address 192.168.1.101

Once you've unpacked your download into a subFolder named network user this location's path in item 10 below.

-- For UPDATE to a newer version of the NIC drivers.
    1. Select start, then Control Panel.
    2. Double click Network and Internet Connection.
    3. Select the Network Connection icon.
    4. Double Click the Local Area Network icon.
    5. Select the Configure button.
    6. Select the Driver tab.
    7. Select the Update Driver button, then select Next.
    8. Select Install From A LIST..., then select Next.
    9. When prompted, select Include this location in the search.
    10. Browse to or type in the directory path, then select Next.
    11. Select the Intel PRO/100 network adapter from the device list, select Next.
    12. Continue to follow on-screen instructions until finished.
    13. Close network adapter properties, and Control Panel.

Jul 21, 2008

- For your wireless port,
Download these three files into a subFolder named Wirrelss Port
First this on here, If this install does not update and says its not needed, stop and post to me about this.
Then, this one
And lastly this one. This last one is a firmware flash update. If in executing it it says your wireless port does not support this let me know.

Jul 21, 2008

- It never hurts to reboot, I usually suggest it.

This being a Monday and with some irons in the fire, I will be in and out all day.

Laura's mother's funeral was today, so I have some mixed feelings about the day itself. I knew here and liked her a lot but she wa a 10year cancer survivor. At least now, she is at peace. Laura's Dad will have some real winding down to do, it has been a long battle for him too. They married at the end of WWII. We want him to come visit with us for awhile. Need to feed him and beef him up again.

Jul 21, 2008

- Hold on while I examine the update facts.

Jul 21, 2008

- It doesn't look like it, go ahead and then post any problems.

Jul 21, 2008

- No, but post me the model number of your Realtek Wireless Card. I'll see if there is an update for it.
WV

Jul 22, 2008

- You don't have a card that goes into a slot on your laptop?

Where did you get the Realtek brand ID from?

WV

BTW, all is good, family returning home tomorrow.

Jul 22, 2008

- The Realtek card should also show up in WinAudit or Device Manger, from Control Panel, System.

Is there anything there? And, do you use this card to connect to your DSL router or are you hard wired.

From what I saw so far, your card is really slow at dot A generation when a dot G that is to say 802.11g vs 802.11a/b the 11g is 54Mbs per second while 11a/b is 12Mbs. Your router will support it and your PC will to. Anyhow, any element of your laptop system can cause any problem in your system. That's why the rigorous routine of going through all your hardware.

Jul 22, 2008

- I'm real familiar with Realtek, no pun intended. They make good gear. They aren't a well known brand name except amongst techs.

I'll get the latest dirvers.

When you were using a USB cable. The cable jack may have been only USB 1.1 which is 12Mbs, thus bottle necking your card's capability. But you may have a USB 2.0 don't know for sure.

WV

Jul 22, 2008

- Go here to download and install the Realtek driver

WV

Jul 23, 2008

- OK. That's what we call hard wired.

I'll resend the link.

BTW, I've noticed there were several posts by Guest. These, I've been ignoring as I expect your replies to be at the end of your side and befoe my side begins. I don't scroll down any further as there is no need. If I need to go to use the comment box myself, I press Ctrl+End which takes me straight to the end of the page where the comment box is located. So, if you wouldn't mind, in order to avoid confusion in the future would you be so kind as to use the Add Reply? Thanks.

Here is the link. Go to this page, scroll down a bit, you will see a table under Windows Drivers, select Site 1 of the UI row.

WV

Jul 23, 2008

- OK. Sorry about that. Laura had called and Igot distracted. Sorry.

Go here, scroll down to find the table, click on the first link in the row that has the UI acronym in it.

WV

You want the modem driver update too? Yes?

Jul 23, 2008

- Go to this page for the modem update.

There are only OS updates left I recall and these are HP specific to you laptop. I am considering the possibilities of how to backup your system so much if not all is not lost to a virus.

You have a CD Burner not a DVD burner in your hot swap drive bay. And you are hardwired to your router. Can you link to your tower by opening the address in an explorer window?

WV

Jul 24, 2008

- Under documents an settings on both machines, you will have a folder called all users, under this is the folder titled Shared Documents or Documents and then under that are Shared Folders.
Contents in these folders can be accessed by any computer in the Home Area Network.

I was only guessing at your having a CD Burner on your laptop as most CDRoms from that laptops era are dead now and have been replaced by writers, usually DVD writers. I got mine on Ebay for less than $30.

I'll send you these other updates. Its just been a really bad day or two for me with my legs acting up and I've had to take too many pain pills to concentrate.

WV

Jul 24, 2008

- Wow, you know, I hear stories like that all the time about sales of used equipment. Normally, the operative phrase is 'as is' or even 'I'll make it right'. Chances are you were sold this laptop with this as a known issue. But, that's not the end of the world. I'm pretty sure I know the answer but we'll just move on.

From Winaudit do you have this hard drive?
Hitachi DK23CA-xx

WV

Jul 24, 2008

- That info on your hard drive did indicate that its a Hitachi. HP has a firmware update for a drive that was supplied with the laptop as sold. Firmware updates, write new code to the chip on the hard drive. These are usually quite important, but we need to be certain. So, do this.
Reboot,
Press F10 to enter Bios Screens,
On the first page or page that shows your hard drive, CD Rom, etc.
Get to this page.

It will show the Hard Drive model type, write that down it won't be very long in characters.

Thanks,
WV

As the weekend approaches I need to be vigilant to any new trouble makers on our site. The site owners are getting tired of this too and it will be awhile before the site is configured so only validated experts can log in and any expert can be locked down instantly. What they do now, with this setup is create a new account with a new name.

Anyway, find the Hard Drive model type and let me know.

I've got another customer online here with an exact same laptop. Their battery won't charge at all and they can't even get to the bios screens so far. But, I gave this gentleman instructions on how to disassemble the laptop as he said he was handy at taking car motors and motorcycle engines apart. He's done it but the provisions I gave him did not succeed. So, I've been looking at parts and found the DC converter online but it was from England and wouldn't ship to US. But, there are likely others. This part by the way translates power off the battery to the system.

WV

Jul 25, 2008

- Re: your wireless card, the card needs only to be set to the encryption protocol of your wireless router. Normally, WEP uses TKIP you are then prompted for a network name sometimes and then a password.

Somewhere in your start menu programs there should be a wireless setup utility.And, when you attempt to connect to a wireless network and can't, there is an icon for the wireless card, blue or green when connected and red when not. You can normally click or double click on this icon in your system tray and that will bring up the wireless utility program. Here, you can create a profile, set the encryption protocal, WEP or WEP2, identify the network by name, if needed, and then add the password.

Do you remember doing this before?

re: the Hard Drive. I'm surprised this isn't listed somewhere in your bios, even in the bootup order. But, just go to Control Panel, System and then Hardware and finally Device Manger, the hard drive will be listed in there.

WV

Jul 25, 2008

- Your hard drive is not included in this firmware update.
WV

Jul 25, 2008

- Good. Glad to hear you got the router and wireless card working okay. The updated driver should give you better optimization.

I'll send you the system op updates.

WV

Jul 25, 2008

- go to this page and download the power management update. I'm not sure if it will say needed or not, but give it a go.

WV

Jul 25, 2008

- Go to this page to download the set of system enhanceemnts fro you laptop. Save it to a subFolder called System Enhancements. This is a large file, roughly 49MB.

Create a restore point first and then execute the downloaded file.

Just a few more to go.

WV

Jul 28, 2008

- Did you receive the last update I sent you, it was 49MB in size?

WV

Jul 29, 2008

- OK. Sorry about that.

Here is the link now, save it under a subFolder named Operating Enhancements.

It is very likely you may not need this. If not, let me know.

WV

Jul 29, 2008

- I understand the apparent confusion. The reason we have been doing all this with software, especially up to now, is to rule out a role of software. More on that later.

I'll find and post the next update later. I have to be at the hospital in Reno tomorrow and this is an all day trip there and back.

If I can I'll send this file link to you tonight. I believe it has to be from HP specifically.

Meanwhile, download this file here and save it to a subFolder called Lid Switch. This controls how your laptop sleeps or hibernates when the lid is closed. As such, it is part in parcel with the power management chip systemware.

Jul 29, 2008

- This is the XPSP3 update.

Go to this page here click on the download button, wait and then when prompted choose "Save As" and save it to a subFolder named XPSP3.

Do this using a Network cable and not your wireless card, it will be faster and more reliable.

The installer automatically creates an Uninstall Entry in your Add/Remove program list and creates a Restore Point too.

Jul 30, 2008

- Yes. I know. You want to do this to download the update as a single file, move it to your laptop using the pen drive, copy that file to your software folder and then double click that from within your desktop on the laptop.
WV

Jul 30, 2008

- OK. Time to defrag your computer. Do you have just the basic defrag that comes with your XP?

WV

Jul 31, 2008

- Go ahead and run that program for now. Your drive has to be pretty fragmented at this point. Later, I point you to a good program that has a time restricted trial period but is fully functional. I have and use it and it comes in real handy for what it does do. And, its fast and doesn't require a ton of ram and system resources.

WV

Jul 31, 2008

- Leave that unchecked or your wireless card transmits as available. Anyone with a strong transciever could bounce off your wireless card and into your DSL router. These are usually kids, we call them kiddy coders, who get off deleting certain files and ruin your day and cruising porn sites.

Jul 31, 2008

- Go to this page to download the Boost Speed program from AusLogics.

This will put a small blue globe icon in your system tray, resting your mouse over it will bring up a set of information pages on Ram and such. You want to click or single click the icon or you can right click it and get access to many of this program features.

It also installs an icon on your desktop called one button checkup. Double clicking this brings up a disk cleaner and a defrag link. Click on the defrag link and then select whatever drive you want, in your case C: and let it run. It is far superior to the Windows Defrag.

You'll also see in this program set an item to defrag your Registry. I highly suggest you do this too, but after you've run the Registry Fixer program.

Regards,
Worldvet

Jul 31, 2008

- When you downloaded the SP3 update did you use your laptop to do this and did it stay running the entire time you did this?

The next correct thing to so is make a backup of your Windows installation. You really don't want to do through all this again.

Since you've mentioned that when you use the network cable from your laptop to connect to your DSL modem and router you have access to the Shared Files folder on your tower.

So, we need to check how much space is being used your laptop on C: and how much free space is available on your Tower.

To check these both, right click My Computer, select Manage and then Manage Disks. You will see statements regarding C: the free space expressed in a percentage and a numerical value.

Can you send me that information expressed in a numerical value for your laptop and Tower?

Thanks,
WV

Jul 31, 2008

- That is not a lot of free space on your tower.

The system file checker.

As I recall you don't have the disk, so we actually need to edit your registry to point to the the folder that has winnt32.exe located in it.

Would you do a search again on your c drive for that file [winnt32.exe] this is where the installation files are located. When you go to perform the search, click on advanced options and tell it to look in 'sub folders' and also hidden system files as well. Unless, you can recall where that file was.

It should be in c:\windows\i386
[where windows is the name of the windows folder; it could also be winnt] do you recall? I don't. So, I'd search in the windows folder and that will be a faster search. Unless you can browse and locate the location. The location, such as: c:\windows\i386\ is called the path. Once we know the path we can do the registry bit.

Once, I know the location I'll tell you how to and where to edit the registry so system file checker looks in the new location rather than asking for the disk.

WV

Aug 04, 2008

- Hi,

We had a more normal weekend although there was some trouble it just didn't come my way for once. I stayed off the site pretty much until late at night.

Now that you have installed SP3 there is no need to run the System File Checker as the Service Pack replaces any missing or corrupt files.

We could and should edit your registry so the installation path to your Windows is not pointing to a CD but to the directory where Compaq put all the files to begin with. Working in the registry can be scary as there is no undo, however you can back it up and then restore is should you spell something wrong. But, I can guide you through it when you're ready I point you to the entry and you change a value. That's it. I just need you to recall where the file wnnt32.exe was located.

Regards,
Worldvet

Aug 05, 2008

- If what the other user tells you bears up, this could be interesting and I know of a few electronic experts on the site who could comment on what my theory would be as to why this so. I would suggest your flash drive. On this, I won't say now, as it may be misleading. The fact is though, this model laptop is notorious for this very same problem. And, narrowing down the cause by eliminating all other reasons, is basic deduction.

So, let me know. And, I'm sure you understand that running the system file checker is not needed now. However, it would be good form to edit your registry and point Windows to the correct location for files instead of asking you again at some future date.

Aug 05, 2008

- Service Packs from Microsoft contain major operating enhancements and a roll up of all previously released updates. Because they are an OS Upgrade, they repair all system files if needed, in a way it behaves in a manner similar to SFC.

WV

Aug 06, 2008

- You can turn off ERS and don't worry about the Cacheman icons.

Aug 07, 2008

- How long will your laptop run on battery now, with the flash drive installed?

WV

Aug 07, 2008

- That sounds about right for the generation of laptop you have. Its about the best I get out of mine which is the same era.

Didn't you have an issue with this running on A/C and the battery installed as well?

And, if so does the flash drive installed affect this in the same beneficial manner.

I have to bounce this off an electronics guru in the community but I do feel if this is all it boils down to its a problem with the USB circuits at fault.

WV

Aug 07, 2008

- That sounds so much better. I am trying to swallow the affect a device on the USB hub of your laptop solves your problem. I can wrap my head around it as to why and I'm not certain at this point a software update could change anything.

This issue aside, how is your laptop running now? Have any problems arose since we applied all these updates and installed SP3?

WV

Aug 07, 2008

- I saw your post, as a guest, on your search for winnt32.exe.

The owners of this web site have made it know to we experts here that they uncovered a bug and fixed it and the results of this bug, for one, accounted for us not always knowing when you a customer had posted a reply. It unearthed about 50% of my votes by customers that didn't exist in my logs before and accounts for my feeling that some customers had dodged me in rating responses.

I don't know what other areas this bug affected I just know what they chose to disclosed, but where you are concerned it definetly accounts for why I never knew about the posts you made that got added in as a Guest for some reason.

On the winnt32.exe, with the SP3 installed this may have changed things. I'll have to look at the one computer I've upgraded and see if I can located it myself.

With another thought on this, if you have your version listed as WinXP Pro, if you can find someone with a copy of that they will let you borrow, you can copy the entire contents to a special folder on your hard drive. Once that is done, we can edit your registry to look there when ever it needs to locate a base file.

WV

Aug 08, 2008

- OK, try a search for winnt.exe instead. Thanks.

WV
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OK, my last comment went in as a guest also. The laptop runs good but seems to boot kind of slow. I haven't noticed any problems with SP3 or the updates.

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I haven't noticed any problems and it runs good but boots up kind of slow.

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sir please give me idea to solve my wireless driver problem of presario c700tu laptop.i want to download this driver .
please help me. i will be obliged to u forever
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I did the search and winnt32.exe is not found. I used the subfolders and hidden files options.

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OK, it is a Realtek RTL8185 54M.

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I have not tried powering on AC without the battery in. Will that tell you anything? Once the laptop was turning on and off by itself in a loop until I removed and reinserted the battery.

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Here is my network info:

Adapter Number 1
Adapter Name Siemens SpeedStream Wireless USB Adapter Number 1
Adapter Name Siemens SpeedStream Wireless USB
Adapter Number 2
Adapter Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection Adapter Number 2
Adapter Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection
Adapter Number 3
Adapter Name Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter Adapter Number 3
Adapter Name Realtek RTL8185 54M Wireless LAN Network Adapter
Adapter Number 4
Adapter Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection Adapter Number 4
Adapter Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network Connection

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Yes, I am using a new battery and had the same problem with the original one.

You haven't sent me any updates for my network card(s). I don't use dial-up but maybe I will need it sometime.

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