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I need help putting the bobbin threader back onto a Nelco JA38 sewing machine and the springs are giving me fits. Any help?


Not sure if you are having problems with the bobbin winder or threading the bobbin. This may help:

Nelco JA 38 Sewing Machine Threading Diagram

To avoid awful thread nests under the fabric, be sure to ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot when threading the top thread.

Interestingly, the bobbin threading instructions (above) show the bobbin loading into the bobbin case so it turns COUNTER-clockwise. This is the opposite of instructions for most machines. You can probably try both, the clockwise or Counter-clockwise,and see if one works better than the other.

Be sure to use fresh, good quality sewing machine oil or Tri-Flow Synthetic Oil on your machine. Open it up, while gently wiggling the handwheel, drop a couple drops of oil every place that metal rubs against metal. Avoid plastic or rubber parts! You may even find little round holes throughout that are oil ports. Be sure to get the area around the needlebar, presser foot lifter, feed dogs, the bobbin area, and all the dial and selector mechanisms.

You can find manuals for your machine online (not free!).


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Aug 04, 2014 | Brother XR7700

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My bobbin thread won't come up with the needle. so, I can't sew. how do I fix it


First, make sure the needle is installed correctly. Then when you thread through the needle, it should go through the hole so that the thread basically lies inside the groove that runs down the side of the needle. These two steps are critical to being able to pick up the thread properly!! Typically the thread feeds from the left side or some from the front.
Secondly, make sure the bobbin is loaded correctly and firmly attached in place. The thread should just hang off the outside of the bobbin.
Hold onto the upper thread and manually turn the machine through the start of a cycle. When the needle goes into the top plate and down toward the bobbin, a hook should grab the top thread, rotate it about straight down (6 o'clock position) and then release it to grab the bobbin thread. Continue slowly turning the machine manually until you see (hopefully) the thread from the bobbin. Use something thin to pull both threads to the rear, under the foot, and all should be good. When you first start to sew, you might need to hold onto the top thread so it is not pulled out of the needle.
My guess is if you have done all the above, you could have a timing problem that needs to be adjusted at a repair shop.

Mar 08, 2014 | Singer Sewing Machines

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How to thread a bobbin


Which Singer machine do you have? I know how to wind and insert a full bobbin for some models.

Some wind the bobbin with it in the case. This is the case with my Touch & Sew. Inserting a full bobbin is simple. Open the slide plate and drop in the bobbin with the rings up. Make sure that to hold the bobbin thread so that it comes off at the left. Then close the slide plate and make sure that the end of the bobbin thread is coming through the notch. Hold onto the threads and turn the handwheel until the top and bottom thread come back up with a twist. To wind a bobbin for this machine, open the slide plate (some models have a little mark to line up the slide plate). Put in the empty bobbin and thread the top normally. Set the machine to straight stitch and push the bobbin wind button in. (This has a bulls-eye symbol on it.) Wrap the end of the top thread around the presser foot screw several times and hold onto the end. Step on the foot control to start winding. Keep winding until the bobbin is full. The thread wound onto the screw should break. Pull some extra thread and cut it to separate the top and bottom threads. Close the slide plate and set your desired stitch.

Other models are wound at the top of the machine. For some of with a drop-in bobbin, you need to bring the thread down to a catch and then off to the left to another catch. Some have a vertical bobbin. I don't remember if they all have a removable case. Those that do need the thread to come through a notch on the case that pulls the thread under a spring that keeps the bobbin tension. However you should check your manual. If you do not have a manual, check if one is available online. (http://www.singerco.com/accessories/instruction-manuals has many of the Singer manuals for sale or download.)

If you post a comment with the model of your machine, I'll give you a description of threading the bobbin or winding one.

Cindy Wells

Jan 19, 2012 | Singer Sewing Machines

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Bobbin stich is uneven and a tangled mess


you can dowload a manual from the singer website http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

If the bottom stitching is uneven, its mostly the top thread not under tension correctly so check the tension dial and the threading up from the thread spool to the needle.

Also, review how you wind a bobbin, you want a nice smooth wind, not twisting or uneven build across the bobbin. The manual for this machine is pretty brief on this but bobbin winding is crucial to getting a good even flow from the bobbin when stitching seams. You want to wind thread smoothly onto the bobbin, across the full width of it, not just mainly in the middle. Give the thread a nudge with your finger tip to fill top and bottom as it winds.

Also, ensure the thread goes through the bobbin tension disc on top of the machine, and even then, use your scissors handle to put some downward gentle pressure onto the thread spool you are winding off so it doesn't jump or bounce as you wind. Wind the bobbin to 3/4 full, then stop.

And lastly, load the bobbin correctly following the manual directions, make sure it is turning the right way in the bobbin case. Also look at page 16, it shows the "dangle" test where you can check the tension on the bobbin case is right, you should be able to dangle the bobbin by the thread tail and it should "stay" but you should be able to pull on it to release thread too. Adjust the little tension screw in minute increments to get this right. Bobbin case tension springs can fail or break too, so check this out.

Hope this helps you; it is my experience that 90% of machine issues are caused by blunt or wrong sized needles, wrong threading, no tension or incorrect tension or lack of maintenance.

Apr 16, 2011 | White Sewing 1888 Mechanical Sewing...

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The tension on the bobbin is giving big loops and then breaking


This could be one of the following:
  • wrong bobbin for the machine
  • bobbin loaded the wrong way - must rotate anticlockwise when you pull the thread
  • thread not into the tension spring/device on the bobbin holder correctly
  • bobbin wound badly, uneven tension, loose or uneven across the bobbin
  • poor quality or old dry brittle thread could cause the breaking (but the loops is definitely tension issues).
This is a top loading bobbin machine machine and you can download a manual from
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

Here is the threading diagram from the manual.

tally_girl_21.jpg It is important to click the thread down into the tension spring on all top loading bobbin machines and then pull gently on the thread to check that it is under tension, you should feel firm resistance when you pull the thread. If not, then take it out, and try again.

Other thing to look at is how the bobbin is wound. It is necessary to wind a bobbin smoothly and with some tension on the spool as the thread comes off it. Best analogy is the garden hose reel. If you wind it up and don't control where the hose goes onto the reel it will all lump up in the middle, and you won't get all the hose onto it. And then when you go to pull the hose out, it will jam and be difficult to pull. Same with bobbin thread. You want a nice neat even fill across the whole width of the bobbin, not just the middle. To achieve this make sure you use the bobbin winder tension disc when winding. Also use the spool cap on top of the thread spool to stop it from bouncing around as it unwinds - the thread will then wind off around the spool cap and this keeps it running smoothly and not twisting and jerking. If you don't have a spool cap then put the curved handle of a pair of scissors on top of the thread spool to tension it while you wind the bobbin. Also watch the bobbin as it winds, give the thread a nudge with your finger to control the fill onto the bobbin so it winds top, bottom and middle of the bobbin evenly.

I would suggest the following:
clean out the race following the manual directions to remove the bobbin holder, clean in this area, replace it. Wind a fresh bobbin and then load it into the machine, following the manual instructions carefully. Also thread the top of the machine following the manual, put in a new sharp needle from the pack, turn the top tension dial to a medium number (often 5 if dial goes from zero to 10).

Now test sew again. Look at the seam, if you have loops on the bottom of the fabric, underside, then the top thread tension is too loose or not in the top tension discs fully. Generally you should not need to adjust the tension on the bobbin thread for these machines.


Apr 13, 2011 | Singer 5050 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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Bobin jumps when sewing


Could be in around the wrong way, poorly wound or not under tension correctly. Or even the wrong bobbin for this machine.

I suggest that you check that the bobbin is correct, ie do you have several that came with the machine and are they all the same in shape and diameter? Consult the manual if you have one.

Nextly, wind a fresh bobbin taking the thread from the spool through the tensioner (if your machine has one on the top) and then onto the bobbin. Keep a little tension on the thread spool with the handle of your scissors to ensure that the bobbin winds smoothly and evenly. Use your finger tip to nudge the thread to fill all areas of the bobbin. You want a neat smooth wind so the thread will then flow smoothly off the bobbin when it is in the machine making stitches.

Now, load the bobbin into the bobbin holder or bobbin case as per your manual, ensuring the thread is correctly into the tension spring and bobbin is rotating the right way around.

Now thread up and test sew again.

Apr 09, 2011 | Brother Sewing Machines

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How do you load the bobbin properly?


Hi there,

Well you may please follow the steps below -
1. Remove the bobbin from the sewing machine. Note: whether you have a drop-in, front or side-loading bobbin on your sewing machine. A drop in bobbin will load from the top, may be via a removable bobbin case cover near the machine-fed dogs. A side or front loading bobbin needs to be loaded into a removable bobbin case under the machine.
2. Choose the right size bobbin for the sewing machine.
3. Wind thread onto your bobbin. Your sewing machine should have a standard thread spool to hold the thread and a short, squat post wide enough for a bobbin.
4. Put the thread and empty bobbin into position on your sewing machine. Wrap the thread around the bobbin to start it. On most machines, disengage the needle by turning the smaller hand-wheel on the machine toward you. Push the bobbin post into position, securing the bobbin into place. Press gently down. Thread should begin to wind neatly onto your bobbin.
5. Break the thread, push the bobbin post back into an inactive position and remove the bobbin. Tighten the hand-wheel. Thread your sewing machine again if necessary before loading the bobbin.
6. Remove the bobbin case cover and put the bobbin into position. The thread should slide through a catch on the bobbin case and up through the cover.
7. Access the bobbin case for a front or side mount bobbin. Lift the catch and remove the removable bobbin holder. Put the bobbin into the holder and run the thread through the holder, bringing it to the front. Lift the catch and slide the bobbin holder back into the case. Hold your needle thread gently forward with your left hand and turn the hand-wheel. The needle thread will pass down into the machine and catch a loop of the bobbin thread. Pull this loop up and slide both threads to the back before beginning to sew.
Good Luck!!

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Bobbin thread does not loop up when threading machine. Then the needle thread get wraped around the inside the bobbin sewing the material to the machine


There are so many thing you need to re-check.

First clean out the bobbin area to be sure there aren't any thread tangles still there.

Open the manual and start from the beginning with threading the machine with the presser foot lever UP - always.

Read the instructions and do not rely solely on the pictures as we all sometimes rush to do (I am just as guilty as the next person to do this).

Make sure the bobbin thread is feeding from the bobbin case in the correct direction.

Hold onto the end of the top thread (after needle has been threaded) and lower then raise the needle to catch and bring up the bobbin thread.

Place the fabric under the presser foot and as you hold onto the ends of the top and bobbin thread, hand walk the first stitch, then use the power pedal.

If you need a manual, you can download (free) from Singer - http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

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Sewing machine dressmaker model 300z


i think you have not looped the thread around the tension on the top before putting it onto the bobbin. you need to wrap the thread in a circle around the sphere near the regualr threading lines.

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