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Can someone explain why Acer no longer supports mxm feature in their latest laptops according to what i've read. apparently graphics cards are intergrated now I liked being able to upgrade the gpu

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  • redbionic Dec 31, 2010

    Thanks for your answer

  • redbionic Jan 02, 2011

    Thanks for your answer
    Just thinking if an upgrade is too difficult people will just buy another laptop
    the manufactures will love that
    i seen adding a graphics card via express card slot don't know how effective that is
    Has it anything to do with keeping laptops slim?
    appreciate any comment
    Thanks

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This is depending on the model and the video card on it ..for the on board video cards the gpu upgrade it may be tricky ..but this is not meaning that it does not support another card ..if it has a bus to attach it it can be upgraded with another card ..

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Graphic card for Acer aspire


One of the best ones is the ATi Mobility Radeon HD 3650. The best NVIDIA one there is the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT. But the ATi GPU is better.
You will probably need to get a new card fitted by Acer or a named specialist.

Mar 05, 2014 | Acer Aspire 7720-6794 Notebook

Tip

Upgrading the Graphics Card in Your Laptop Computer (Yes, it's possible)


At some point in the life cycle of a Laptop, there is usually the demand for better graphics performance. For desktop computers, this is a fairly simple and easy process, and there are a wide range of upgrades available. However, in the case of a Laptop computer, most are told that this is not possible. That in order to upgrade the graphics capability on their laptop they should purchase a brand new expensive model. This is quite frankly, either a misinformed opinion or a bad sales pitch. In this Tip we will explore the graphics upgrade options for Laptops.

METHOD 1: For ANY Laptop with an ExpressCard slot. This method will be something you use at your desk, and it will stay there. This is not a portable option by any means, but it eliminates the necessity of buying a whole new computer. You will need:

1. A Power Supply from a desktop computer.
2. A PCI-Express graphics card of your choosing.
3. HWTools Expresscard to PCI-Express adapter.

The HWTools adapter is a very much barebones kit (85$), and therefore the cheapest alternative compared to overpriced units(750$!!!) from other suppliers that do the exact same thing.

The HWTools site has a very good installation and user manual for the adapter. It is essentially using the computing power of the graphics card and channeling it through the ExpressCard port.

METHOD 2: Netbooks. Sadly, most netbooks do not have an ExpressCard slot and cannot benefit from the method above. The one option available for improving graphics performance ONLY aids in video playback, namely Flash (Youtube) and H.264 video footage. This is done through the installation of a Broadcom CrystalHD card, which essentially offloads video decoding from a slow Netbook processor. An in depth review and test of this card is done by Nick Mertes and can be read here.

METHOD 3: MXM-upgrade! Yes, some laptops support what is known as the MXM graphics card format. These cards can actually be removed from your laptop and upgraded with better cards of the same format. The lists of MXM compatible laptops can be found HERE, and HERE. The site MXM-upgrade.com is dedicated to helping those with MXM to upgrade their laptop graphics.

That is all and I hope this has been informative helpful.

on Oct 02, 2010 | Computers & Internet

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Toshiba x205-sli1 how many video cards does it take?


In my mind it isn't correct.

SLI = Scalable Link Interface,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface

SLI means to have two, or more, graphics chipsets teaming up on the graphics task.

Two or more graphics chipsets used in an SLI -> CONFIGURATION.

Scroll down, read under -> Caveats

"In an SLI configuration, cards can be of mixed manufacturers, card model names, BIOS revisions or clock speeds.

However, they MUST be of the same GPU series (e.g. 8600, 8800) and GPU model name (e.g. GT, GTS, GTX).

There are rare exceptions for "mixed SLI" configurations on some cards that only have a matching core codename (e.g. G70, G73, G80, etc.), but this is otherwise not possible, and only happens when two matched cards differ only very slightly, -> an example being a -> differing amount of video memory <-, stream processors, or clockspeed.

In THIS case, the -> slower/lesser card <- becomes dominant, and the other card matches."

Meaning if one graphics card has 256MB of graphics memory, and the other graphics card has 512MB of graphics memory; it will operate at the SLOWER graphics card, graphics memory, rate.

In otherwords at the rate of the 256MB graphics memory, graphics card.


The LS-3443P has 512MB of graphics memory,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toshiba-Satellite-X205-512M-Video-Graphics-Card-Heatsink-LS-3443P-/370670017623?nma=true&si=1z6WXqlGkouFmRzOMNgmqRW8SK0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The LS-3449P has 256MB of graphics memory,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toshiba-Satellite-X205-256MB-Video-Card-W-Heatsink-LS-3449P-/130789325867?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item1e73a6bc2b

Point;
Why would a laptop manufacturer go to the trouble of using two MXM style of graphics cards; in an SLI configuration; and use one with 256MB of graphics memory, and one with 512MB of graphics memory; only to have the graphics run at 256MB?

Doesn't seem logical.

Logic TO ME dictates using two ALIKE graphics cards, (MXM)

For me I concur with your thinking, and believe the 256MB unit is wrong.

http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/Toshiba-Satellite-X205/take-apart-laptop-1.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MXM

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/unavailable-product.jsp?poid=403632

GeForce 8600M GT uses the Code Name G84, GPU,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_8M_.288xxxM.29_series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series#GeForce_8600M_Series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU


Could I be wrong? YES.
It may be that the two ARE configured to run together, and have a total of 768MB graphics memory.

Again, though, To Me it doesn't follow the Scalable Link Interface, basic technology.

It MAY be that -> BOTH graphics cards need to have the top of the GPU, (Graphics Processing Unit, or simply - graphics chipset), cleaned; and new fresh Thermal Paste PROPERLY applied.

If a Thermal Pad is used, it is carefully peeled off, plus top of GPU, and copper Cooling Tube plate cleaned; and a new piece of Thermal Pad is used, PLUS apply a sparingly amount of new, fresh Thermal Paste.

Also using Anti-Static Precautions, (For everything, of course. Standard procedure), I would use a pencil eraser, and clean the gold plated contact pins of the MXM graphics cards; on BOTH sides. Use compressed air for computers, in the MXM graphics card's slots; on the motherboard.

IF one MXM graphics card is bad, you should be able to remove it, and just use the good one.

Perhaps this was a problem in the past; and whoever had it could only afford the 256MB LS-3449P.

In searching I found one place that wanted $549.00 for the LS-3443P!

Just my thoughts, Michael.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Dec 06, 2012 | Toshiba Satellite X205-SLI1 Notebook

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How do i change my graphics card


Yes, and no.

Pretty clear huh? lol!

Let me explain a few rudimentary things first. May be a long read, and a 'bumpy ride'.

ONE:
Laptop manufacturers tend to 'exaggerate', in order to sell laptops.
They can get away with this due to their 'advertising license'.

"This laptop has an XXXXXX graphics card"

When in reality it isn't a graphics card. It is a graphics chipset soldered directly to the motherboard.

The term 'graphics card' is used rather loosely.

A graphics card is actually a graphics adapter card.

The graphics chipset is soldered to a circuit board, or 'card'.

The circuit board has contact pins on it, which plug into a connector on the motherboard.

This is a basic example for a desktop computer,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7168071

A graphics card made by Powercolor, and uses the AMD ATI Radeon HD5450 graphics chipset.

Left-click on the photo of the graphics card shown at the top.
It will come up in a separate window.
In the views at the Bottom, click on the second view from the left.

Here you will see the gold plated contact pins.
To show the gold plated contact pins in more depth, let's look at an average SO-DIMM ram memory module, for a laptop,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1GB_DDR2_SO-DIMM.png

[ You can click on the photo to enlarge. You can enlarge twice ]

These gold plated contact pins go down into a slot. A graphics card slot. (Expansion slot on the motherboard)

For laptops that TRULY do use a graphics adapter card, they use the MXM technology. There IS a graphics adapter card, and it DOES plug into the motherboard.

This is an example of an ATI Radeon HD5450 MOBILE graphics card, that uses the MXM technology,
(Mobile meaning for a laptop. Laptops are a Mobile computer. Can take it with you wherever you go),

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5450-MXM-Type-A-Graphics-Card-512MB-DDR3-608544-001-/190626056695?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item2c6232c9f7

Here you see the gold plated contact pins again. Means this mobile graphics card, (Mobile meaning laptop), plugs into the laptop's motherboard.

It is mounted to the laptop's motherboard, with screws through those brass ringed holes you see. (Probably with just two holes)

MOST laptops do not use a graphics adapter card, based on the MXM technology.
They just have a graphics chipset soldered directly to the motherboard.

Let's regress for a moment, and let me explain Chipset, GPU, and BGA surface mount.

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Circuit

[ A Processor is just ONE example of an Integrated Circuit ]

G.P.U. stands for Graphics Processing Unit,

The chipset, or Integrated Circuit, for graphics, is a GPU,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

Left-click on the photo to the upper right, that the heading states,
GeForce 6600GT (NV43) GPU

The actual GPU (Goldish/brown square), is in the center of that square
green circuit board. The GPU uses the green circuit board, to connect to the motherboard.

The entire thing you see is termed as the graphics chipset, or GPU.
This is because that circuit board is actually part of it.

BGA surface mount:
Ball Grid Array,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array

To explain a BGA surface mount;

Compare to an older Intel Pentium 4 processor, that uses a Socket 478 processor socket,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

This particular processor socket has 478 socket holes.
The bottom of the Intel Pentium 4 processor, has 478 contact pins sticking out of the bottom.

With a BGA surface mount there are No contact pins on the chipset, (GPU in this case), nor are there socket holes.

The bottom of the graphics chipset has Solder Balls.
The motherboard area where it mounts, has matching Copper Pads.
(The copper pads have a gold plating on them)

The graphics chipset is set into place, over the matching copper pads on the motherboard, and then heat is applied.

Heat is applied at a specific temperature, and length of time.
This action melts the solder balls, which in turn solders the graphics chipset TO the copper pads.

[ Which in turn of course, solders the graphics chipset TO the motherboard ]

IF, you have a graphics chipset, THAT uses the MXM technology, and IS an actual graphics adapter card, you MAY be able to upgrade it.

IF, the graphics chipset is Integrated Graphics, and therefore uses the BGA surface mount, I would forget about it.

Replacing means using a BGA Rework Machine.

However things get more complicated, than just replacing a graphics chipset, that uses the MXM technology.

It isn't, " OH, it's a graphics card? I'll just take it out, and use a better graphics card."

Depends on what the motherboard chipset is, and what type of graphics interface it uses. PCI, or AGP, or PCI-Express.

(PCI, and AGP, and PCI-Express, are technologies. Doesn't just refer to the type of expansion slot )

Let's look at the specifications, for the Gateway NV59C41u Notebook PC,...(Continued in an additional Comment)


May 17, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Update video card


Interesting.

The HP Pavilion dv4000 series of Notebook PC's use the MXM-SIG MXM technology.
(Mobile pci-eXpress Module,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MXM

Nvidia made the MXM module for the Pavilion dv4000 series of Notebook PC's.
It is an Nvidia G73M-256

(The M stands for Mobile. Laptops are mobile devices. The 256 stands for the graphics memory amount in MegaBytes. {MB) This is a unit from the Nvidia GeForce G0 7600 graphics controller)

This is the motherboard. An Asus A8SN-CF (Phoenix)

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00858789&product=1132535#N159

(Click on Video)

This is information about MXM upgrades,

http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/

Since Nvidia no longer directly supports the MXM platform, but does it through MXM-SIG, these guy's are the ones to ask IMHO.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jun 26, 2011 | HP Pavilion dv4000 Notebook

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I have a 2009 acer laptop with windows 7. Well, I was on my laptop and I put it in sleep for a while so I could get ready for bed. So about an hour later, I went back on and apparently while on sleep the...


Hi,
What you should do is download the driver of the graphic card. In Dell's Laptops you can find a number called Service tag which will help you to download the latest drivers. Go to the link below and click on how to find my service tag and from there on you will be able to download the latest drivers for your pc which I believe might solve the problem.
Also be careful where you leave the laptop, you should be aware that laptops might overheat and because of that they can crash creating problems like the ones you saw.
http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Hope this helps,
kind regards,
DL

Feb 28, 2011 | Acer LXA3706003 Notebook

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Is the ati radeon mxm II 512mb card a reasonable graphics card? Thanks


I am not very sure which ATI you meant, but I assume myself as ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 MXM II Graphics Card 512MB, which is compatible with MXM II graphics slot Laptops. It's a good graphics card and it supports high Resolution. For your reference, I include the following descriptions about the Interfaces and their respective resolutions:

# Two integrated DisplayPort outputs

* Each supports 24- and 30-bit displays at all resolutions up to 2560x16001
* 1, 2, or 4 lanes per output, with data rate up to 2.7 Gbps per lane

# Two integrated 400 MHz 30-bit RAMDACs

* Each supports analog displays connected by VGA at all resolutions up to 2048x15361

# HDMI output support

* Supports display resolutions up to 1920x10801
* Integrated HD audio controller with up to 2 channel 48 kHz stereo or multi-channel (5.1) AC3 supporting Dolby Digital or DTS, enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution

# Integrated AMD Xilleon™ HDTV encoder

* Provides high quality analog TV output (component/S-video/composite)
* Supports SDTV and HDTV resolutions
* Underscan and overscan compensation

# MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264/AVC encoding and transcoding
# Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video in real time
# VGA mode support on all display outputs.


You can also check out the full specifications here (Click Here).


Let me know if you need further help.


Good Luck.


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Dec 30, 2010 | Computers & Internet

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Can i get an graphics card for my acer aspire 4720 model????


Yes actually, the Acer Aspire supports the MXM format mobile graphics cards. There are not many laptops that support this, but your series of Acer laptop does.

http://www.acersupport.com/acerpanam/manuals/acer/0000/servicemanuals/Aspire_4320_4720_4720G_4720Z_Nestos_SG.pdf

http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/Table.html

From these sites, your laptop supports MXM Type II, and should work with HD4570 or HD4650 cards. Both available on ebay.

Cheaper solutions would involve external graphics using the Expresscard slot on your laptop. This solution will work for all laptops with Expresscard, but it is not mobile.

http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4H.html

Sep 27, 2010 | Acer Aspire One PC Notebook

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Graphic card for acer aspire 1641


HI Denis,

Unfortunately you cannot change the video card an your laptop, you see its built into the motherboard. There are some high end laptops that use a MXM? slotthat it is possible to change cards and even then its still iffy.
the only real hardware changes you can make to your laptop are the battery, the RAM, and the hardrive.


Nov 13, 2008 | Acer Computers & Internet

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