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I have had this machine for about 15 months. I experienced an issue while the unit was still under warranty wherein the unit would not start and the appliance technician replaced the electronic control board. About a week ago the unit suddenly started to buzz and the interior light would flicker before shutting down on its own after only 2 or 3 seconds. I removed the screws retaining the touch pad/control housing and allowed it to tilt out on the small service support hinge and tried to start the unit so to observe the board. It appeared to me that a small black relay mounted on the electronic control board (with one black and one brown wire attached to it) was "chattering" and thus the buzzing and lights flickering in the cabinet. I decided that it was better to replace the electronic control board than to try and source and replace the relay as there was no guarantee that another bad component on the board was not causing the relay to chatter rather than the relay going bad itself. I have purchased and installed a replacement board; but the issue remains the same! the shop that i purchased the electronic control replacement from understandably does not want the board back. any help on diagnosis of why this relay may be chattering that is external to the electronic control board is most helpful in order that i can pinpoint the part in need of replacement. Thank you very much for you time. Best regards, Mike Power

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  • scoochie Dec 30, 2010

    Ginko,

    i am not sure if you realize that we are talking about a microwave here. I dont know how the model number got dropped from my submission or why i have been put under the heading of Kitchen Ranges; but the product in question is a Whirlpool over the range microwave/hood model number wmh2175xvs1...

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Hi Mike.

As you just found out, the control unit module (CCU-central control unit) is quite tricky to test replace. The CCU is usually replaced after testing and replacing any other part possibly involved in the problem.

The noisy relay stuck was either trying to open the inlet valve or it was energizing the motor. The first one is more likely, start from inlet testing.

Before testing anything else ensure that there is no water in tub when you started the appliance. If there is residual water in tub, check drain system and pressure switch.

Parts that must be tested in the inlet circuit and mechanism are:

Inlet valve and inlet hoses.
Water level device (pressure switch in washer).
Door switch.
Wiring.

Here broad description of testing involved:

Inlet valve and inlet hoses.
Check that inlet hose is not bent or blocked. Test the inlet valve reading Ohms (ensure valve internal solenoid has continuity). A more complete test can be done reading volts and energizing the valve.

Water level device (pressure switch in washer).
Difficult to test, it is tested reading Ohms with tub full and empty. Part is not expensive and gets usually replaced straight away. Clean pipe attached to sensor and check that sensor is clicking when blowing inside the pipe.

Door switch.
Depending on model, testing is done running a cycle with d.s. contacts jumped or Ohming the switch.

Wiring.
Tested reading Ohms (check continuity) or reading volts.

Problem will likely be something affecting the inlet part of the cycle. If there is no inlet problem, proceed in testing the motor and motor control unit (if present).
Motor is tested reading Ohms or energizing it and observing if it runs. A basic test that can be done is starting a cycle with wiring to MCU (motor control unit) or to motor not connected, and observing if the inlet starts or if an error is returned. If there is a change and symptom is not the humming, then motor or MCU is likely involved.

Depending on the model a faulty button pad may also be causing the problem.

I can be more specific if I know the model number of the appliance, as printed in service tag.

Regards.

Ginko.

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  • Ginko
    Ginko Dec 30, 2010

    RE:"Ginko,

    i am not sure if you realize that we are talking about a microwave here.
    I dont know how the model number got dropped from my submission or why i
    have been put under the heading of Kitchen Ranges; but the product in
    question is a Whirlpool over the range microwave/hood model number
    wmh2175xvs1.."

    No, I did not realize. The model was listed in ranges. The symptoms described were not matching those of any gas range, I thought you were talking about a washer.

    If the unit is a microwave, then problem is not unusual, and the failure is almost never due to a faulty control board. The problem is faulty high voltage diode, capacitor or magnetron. Door lock can also be tested, but this is unlikely the problem. The control pad and control board insulation in some case may also give troubles. I do not think this is the case.

    Here a page showing parts and basic troubleshooting.

    About Safety and DIY. Microwaves magnetron emits high power radio frequencies that are very dangerous for your health. In your case the magnetron was luckily not working, probably because of faulty diode or capacitor. Normally, if you operate a MW oven partially disassembled you endanger your health. Please do not do any MW testing with power on and oven disassembled.
    Talking about H&S I must also mention that the MW oven must go through an RF leakage test whenever a repair requiring disassemblying is carried (see: Pro Lab Professional Microwave Leak Detector)

    Regards.

    Ginko.

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