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Power supply the fan won't move and p8 and a differnt p (connected to p2) arn't hooked up. is there anything i can do

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  • Jcarrt Jul 09, 2008

    it is just the fan has stopped moving but i can still play it. i just have to use a fan to blow in it so it doesn't overheat.

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Is this by chance a computer power supply? Does the computer come on when the power button is pushed? If so, then the fan itself is bad- bearings are stuck/lubricant dried up etc. Replacement fans are readily available at low cost.

if the power supply is dead, then likely an internal component has failed. If you have some tech savvy, a voltmeter, soldering/desoldering items & skill, you may be able to repair the supply. A very common failure is one or more electrolytic capacitors, and these may show visible signs of failure- bulged out end, and/or leakage.

ATX style power supplies, used in most machines of the past 8-10 years have both a standby and main section. The standby supplies a low current +5 volts to a small portion of the motherboard. When the pwr button is pushed, the main section comes on, and supplies +5 (Red wires), +12 (Yellow wires), +3.3 (Orange wires), -5, -12. Look here for this info http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml

Voltages are precisely regulated, and any substantial deviation (more than a few 10ths of a volt) indicate a problem, especially on the +5 & +3.3 lines.

Anyway, you could make these checks. Replacement electrolytics- use the Panasonic FC series (designed for switching power supplies) available from Digi-key electronics, or equivalents (Mouser electronics another possible supplier).

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Industry standard PC, XT, AT, and LPX motherboards use the same type of main power supply connectors. They use two main power connectors: P8 and P9. Each of the P8 and P9 connectors has 6 pins that connect power supply to the motherboard.

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Where does P8 P9 connect?


The P8 and P9 power supply cables may not even go to anything.
The power supply cables coming out of the Power Supply, can be labeled, however that particular pre-built computer manufacturer, deems.

General labeling for the power supply cables is;

1) P1 - The 20-pin ATX main power cable, or 24-pin ATX main power cable.

2) P2 and P4 - The 4-pin ATX +12 Volt power cable

3) P3, P5, P6, P7, P8, and P9, can be used for a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable, ('Molex'), or a small 4-pin Peripheral power cable, (Floppy Drives/Card Reader), or a SATA power cable.

Here, let me show you a basic example, looking at Power Supply cable connector markings, for the Dell Optiplex 745 Desktop PC,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/op745/en/UG_en/mt_pwrsp.htm#wp1109155

Scroll down look under the subheading - DC Power Connectors

This link shows you the various power cables, and their respective connectors,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html


If the problem is a Tyan Trinity 400 S1854 motherboard, let's look at the power cables you need to connect;

http://tyan.com/archive/products/html/trinity400.html

To the right of the blue bold - Trinity 400 (S1854) - heading, click on the Manuals icon.

Scroll down to the chart that has - Socket 370 (Intel Celeron / Pentium III ), at the top. In the list click on the blue -

Trinity 400
[ Shows as Trinity 400 (Addendum)
You have the option to click on Trinity 400, or Addendum.
Do not click on Addendum at this time ]

This is a PDF file. The computer you are using now has Adobe Reader on it, which uses PDF files.

After you click on the file name (Trinity 400) it may take up to 30 seconds, before the first page comes up.
Using a medium speed DSL connection, it took 12 seconds just now.

(Wanted you to know, because you will be staring at a blank white page, until the first page comes up. Didn't want you to think the link doesn't work. The file is downloading in the background. The first page is the LAST to come up )

When you are staring at the cover sheet -

Tyan S1854 / Trinity 400 / Motherboard User's Manual / Revision 2.02 -

,bring your mouse cursor to the bottom/middle. The ghosted out navigation guide will now appear.
Go to the far right, and left-click on the Adobe PDF icon.
When you hover your mouse cursor over it -
Show Adobe Reader toolbar - comes up.

Easier to navigate around.
At the top, (Header), is the PDF file page number box. It is to the right of the Down Arrow.
To the right of it, is the Zoom In icon ( + ), and the Zoom Out icon.
( - )
Clicking on Zoom In increases the view size.
Clicking on Zoom Out decreases the view size.

Go to Page 13.
Bring the view size so you are looking at the entire motherboard illustration.
(For me it is 75 percent. I'm using a 26 inch RCA EN-V HDTV, as my main monitor)

You can use the Down Arrow to go page by page; Or,

1) Left-click once in the PDF file page number box.
Contents in the page number box will be highlighted in blue.
2) Type the page number (In this case -> 13)
3) Press the Enter key.

Page 13 is an illustration, Page 14 is a photo; Top View.

A) ATX main power cable.
It is a 20-pin ATX main power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#atxmain20

Looking at the illustration it is shown at the far upper right.
ATX power connector.
It is in-between ram memory Slot 3 (DIMM 3), and the Floppy Drive cable's connector.

That is the only power cable that connects to the motherboard.

B) Your IDE (PATA) harddrive, will use a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

DOES NOT MATTER what P number is on it, as long as it is a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable, you're fine.

In fact you may have some of these power cables left over. Roll them up out of the way, and tie them with a plastic zip strip.. The inside of your computer needs all the air flow it can get.
(Bread tie = NO. It has a metal wire inside. Do not recommend)

C) Your optical drive/s, (CD/DVD drive/s), are probably IDE (PATA) also.
Each one needs a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable.
Again, DOES NOT MATTER what the P number is.

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA ]

You may have a computer case fan, (Or more than one), that has an adapter cable, allowing it to use a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable, OR a small 4-pin Peripheral power cable, for power.

(In the Playtool link, the Peripheral power cable example, is a standard 4-pin Peripheral power cable.
The Floppy Drive cable example is a small 4-pin Peripheral power cable.

They are BOTH Peripheral power cables.
The Small, and Standard, are designations that allow you to immediately know what you are looking at.

Newer computers do not use a Floppy Drive. This power cable is usually used for a Card Reader. Hence the need to have a more standard designation, for these two types of power cables.

The Peripheral power cable has been mislabeled as a Molex power cable.
Molex was the first maker of this type of power cable CONNECTOR. The name stuck. Kind of like calling an adustable open-end wrench, a Crescent wrench )

Those small 4-pin Peripheral power cables, can be used for a myriad of devices. (Floppy Drive/s, Card Reader, power to a case fan, etc)

Again, as long as you find a device, that needs it, it does NOT matter what P number is on that power cable's connector.

A computer case fan is supposed to attach to FAN1.
The Brown three pin connector at the end of ram memory Slot 1.
(DIMM1) Power for the fan.

Same thing for the Brown three pin FAN4 connector on the motherboard, above the AGP expansion slot to the left, and to the right of the Game Port. (Joystick)

Same thing for the Brown three pin FAN3 connector, above the CMOS battery, and to the left of the VIA VT82C596B - Southbridge chip.

Same thing for the Brown three pin connector FAN2.
It isn't shown on the illustration, but is in the photo.
It is to the right of the Brown three pin FAN4 connector.

Conclusion:
If all of your devices has a power cable, then P8 and P9 may not be used. Just extras in case you find devices that need them.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

[Main thing is to have the jumpers on the motherboard, set to the correct setting.
Also, at the last make sure your ram memory module/s ('Stick'), are plugged in tightly. You can accidentally bump them loose, when plugging power cables in ]

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I would suspect a bad power supply. Before doing anything make sure power is actually getting to the computer. Check the power cord with a volt meter. You should have around 115 volts. If all is well you need to see if the power supply is putting out the correct voltage. Open the PC up and set the multimeter to DC voltage.
  1. Turn off the PC, but do not unplug it. Open the system unit. Set the multimeter to read DC volts in the next range higher than 12 volts. Locate a power connector similar to the hard drive (or CD-ROM drive connector that is unused) and turn on the PC.
  2. You can also unplug a drive connector and use it. Turn on the PC and insert the BLACK probe into the power connector on one of the BLACK wires. Touch the RED probe to the YELLOW wire on the power connector.
  3. The multimeter reading should be +12 volts. Now touch the RED probe to the RED wire and the reading should be +5 volts. If no readings or different readings occurred, you’ll have to replace the power supply. If the readings were correct, you should check the P8 or P9 connectors at the motherboard. These connectors may also be named P4 and P5. To check these connectors, perform the following:
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    • Check the power going to the motherboard connections by inserting the RED probe into P8 at the YELLOW wire and you should get +12 volts. Leave the BLACK wire touching the BLACK wire at the P8 connector. Check the BLUE wire and the reading should be a -12 volts.
    • Now move the BLACK probe to the BLACK wire on the P9 connector. Test the WHITE wire by inserting the RED probe and the reading should be -5 volts. Check the RED wires on the P9 connector and you should get +5 volts on each red wire. You won’t get exactly 5 or 12 volts, but the readings will be very close, such as 5.02 volts.
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Here is how you can check the power supply with multimeter

If the wall outlet and the power cord are good, make sure the connection at the motherboard is secure. Then you may have to face the fact that the power supply itself is bad. If you have a multimeter, you can test the power supply output before purchasing a new one. Simply follow these steps:
  1. Turn off the PC, but do not unplug it. Open the system unit. Set the multimeter to read DC volts in the next range higher than 12 volts. Locate a power connector similar to the hard drive (or CD-ROM drive connector that is unused) and turn on the PC.
  2. You can also unplug a drive connector and use it. Turn on the PC and insert the BLACK probe into the power connector on one of the BLACK wires. Touch the RED probe to the YELLOW wire on the power connector.
  3. The multimeter reading should be +12 volts. Now touch the RED probe to the RED wire and the reading should be +5 volts. If no readings or different readings occurred, you’ll have to replace the power supply. If the readings were correct, you should check the P8 or P9 connectors at the motherboard. These connectors may also be named P4 and P5. To check these connectors, perform the following:
    • Insert the BLACK probe into P8 at one of the BLACK wires. Insert the RED probe into the P8 connector at the RED wire. The reading on the multimeter should be +5 volts.
    • Check the power going to the motherboard connections by inserting the RED probe into P8 at the YELLOW wire and you should get +12 volts. Leave the BLACK wire touching the BLACK wire at the P8 connector. Check the BLUE wire and the reading should be a -12 volts.
    • Now move the BLACK probe to the BLACK wire on the P9 connector. Test the WHITE wire by inserting the RED probe and the reading should be -5 volts. Check the RED wires on the P9 connector and you should get +5 volts on each red wire. You won’t get exactly 5 or 12 volts, but the readings will be very close, such as 5.02 volts.
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http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1046822.html

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