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Neutral (white) wire connection

Where does the white wire come from off the electric motor on a ceiling fan.The one I have fell off while I was cleaning it and fell far enough to pull the power wire loose. The black wire pulled loose from a wire nut, but the white pulled loose from a solder joint and was inside the tube between the top of the motor and ceiling mount.The problem is the white wire only runs to a wire nut on the bottom side of the fan for light that it doesn't have,I can't seem to find where the white wire was connected to complete the circuit.

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Use caution when dealing with AC, it can be deadly.

The black wire by accepted standards is the 'hot' wire and will measure (when active) 110-125 volts (in the US) to ground or the white neutral wire in a normal household system.
The white wire may have a couple of volts when measured to an earth ground or any green (or green-yellow) wire which is (by standards) connected to earth ground, often via plumbing pipes in some homes, or a visible or buried grounding rod driven several feet into the earth.

The black (hot) wire is the one customarily 'switched.'

I would highly recommend you have a qualified electrician reconnect the strayed wires to protect yourself and the fan.

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