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I recently had a new outdoor unit installed on my central heat and air conditioning sytem. I have had the installer out 3 times and the system still does not operate correctly. Sometimes when it cycles (every other time or every third time) the unit does not blow cold air. Sometimes the unit comes on not blowing cold air and the compressor fan is running but not the compressor. Sometimes after 15 minutes of this the compressor will come on. What is the problem.

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It sounds like the compressor needs starting components installed on it. All a/c units have a run capacitor for the compressor and another one for the condenser fan motor. These motors use these capacitors all the time when the motor is running. However, in some cases, this capacitor isn't enough to get the compressor spinning initially. Starting components consist of two parts, a start capacitor and a potential relay. The starting components are wired in in series with the compressor run capacitor. When the compressor turns on, the start capacitor gives the compressor an extra "kick in the pants" to get it going, then as soon as the compressor is spinning, the potential relay disconnects the start capacitor from the circuit for the duration of the run time and resets when the compressor turns off. Most likely, your indoor unit has a thermal expansion valve (commonly known in the trade as a TXV). This valve maintains a somewhat substantial differential between the high side and low side of the compressor after the system turns off which can be difficult for the compressor to overcome without help. Right now the compressor is trying to come on, can't overcome the pressure, and is tripping it's internal overload to protect itself. Eventually, as the overload repeatedly trips and resets over and over, the compressor will finally get around to a position where it will start once in a while. I am not a gambling man and I would bet you money that this will solve your problem. If you would be so kind as to rate my solution "Fix-Ya".

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With all due respect some people think they have a heat pump and it is just AC and electric heat also but is not a heat pump.
. If you have the outdoor AC unit running with your thermostat set for heat and the air coming off the out door unit is cold, or you see it "steam up outdoors" off the out door unit at times (we call this mode defrost).

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