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Furnace Runs, and then just looses the flame I assume, the Draft Fan continues to run, then it re-ignites and runs normal, does not do it every time the furnace starts up

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Hi,

Either the flame sensor is bad or the flame is pulling off of the flame sensor...

Check that the flame stays in contact with the sensor.. replace the sensor if needed... also check all grounding connections fron burners to ignitioncontrol/gasvalve...

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Bottom dollar: it all goes back to type of gas, the initial setup, the pressure tap. and how it is wired up to begin with.
This will give you an idea where to start I hope.

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