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Computer freezes when trying to detect S-Ata drive

Hello,

I've just bought myself a Samsung Spinpoint F1 harddrive (http://techreport.com/articles.x/14200)

And I've installed it correctly, but when the computer is booting, it freezes.
It happens before you normally see the 'Detecting hard drives' message.

Could it be that the HD is incompatible with the motherboard?
Do I have to change the s-ata speed settings in the bios(if so, how?)
If I have to update my BIOS(Phoenix Award), then what version do I need, and where do I get it?

Thanks in advance,

Eamon Woortman

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  • dutchmeat Jun 30, 2008

    Unfortunatly the freeze occurs before the IDE device autodetection, this means that I can't boot from CD.

    However, when disabling the 'Auto-detect' function on the IDE (HD)drives, I was able to boot from from CD, but the ECS tool wasn't able to detect the Samsung drive.

  • dutchmeat Jul 02, 2008

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    However, if you can't get into the bios you will not be able to flash the bios. You must be able to get into the bios so you can see if the bios detects the SATA drive
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    I can get into the bios, and I have flashed my bios with the latest drivers. However, when I connect the new s-ata drive it still freezes before it performs the 'Detecting HD's' function.

    I've got 3 IDE 'channels',
    IDE 1 Master: DVD-Rom
    IDE 1 Slave: Nothing
    IDE 2 Master: (P-ATA Drive)
    IDE 2 Slave: Nothing
    IDE 3 Master: Nothing
    IDE 3 Slave: Nothing

    When I disable the IDE 3 Master, then the freezing doesn't occur, but the Samsung HDD isn't getting detected.

    Anyway, I've tested the drive in another PC, and it worked(to make sure it's not broken).
    So I've downloaded the 'to 1.5 Gb/s' tool from http://www.samsung.com/global/business/h...
    And set it to 1.5 gb/s linkspeed. I'll let you know the result when I get back home, in theory it should now work because my mobo supports 1.5 gb/s.

  • dutchmeat Jul 02, 2008

    Unfortunatly the disk still isn't getting recognized.

    Like I've said, I used a tool to set the linkspeed of the disk to 1.5gbs, but the UDMA was put to 'SATA Mode 2(300)', and If I remember correctly my motherboard only support udma 133.
    Shall I try to put the HD udma to 133 instead?

  • dutchmeat Jul 02, 2008

    Well that's the problem map9966, in the manual supplied with the disc, there's only a jumper description of a P-ATA drive. So I don't know what pin does what, although I've tried both pins without result...

  • dutchmeat Jul 03, 2008

    The problem is fixed!

    After using the 'to 1.5 GB/s' tool, AND manually setting the UDMA(Ultra DMA) to 100(Mode 1 I think), the drive is recognized perfectly by the bios.

    Thanks map9966 for helping me out!

    Regards,

    Eamon

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Hi Eamon, download Samsungs drive setup utility, tools from Samsungs web site. Creat a bootable floppy drive setup disk or a CD bootable disk.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/utilities/ES_Tool.html
Enable the SMART function using the setup software.
If you are going to use the Samsung drive as the primary master drive as the new C:\ you will need to enter the bios & set the Hard Disk Boot Priority, page 30 in you're manual to see the Samsung drive.
Connect only the Samsung into the system. Boot the system & use Samsung's software to setup the drive & format.
Disconnect any other hard disk drives that may have windows installed in it.

Mike

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  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Jun 30, 2008

    It's very possible that the onboard SATA controller is defective. (Common issue with many boards). The system freezing durring bootup would seem to be a bios issue. However, if you can't get into the bios you will not be able to flash the bios. You must be able to get into the bios so you can see if the bios detects the SATA drive. You stated;

    "However, when disabling the 'Auto-detect' function on the IDE (HD)drives, I was able to boot from from CD, but the ECS tool wasn't able to detect the Samsung drive." Forget about the ECS tools. See if you're SATA hd is being seen by the bios.

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Jun 30, 2008

    Make sure the SATA data & power cable are good. A slight bump is more than enough to loosen either cable. It may look connected but do not go by looks. Give em a push.

    ECS bios update site;

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product...



    Main web site for K8M800-M2;

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product...

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Jul 02, 2008

    I agree with you Eamon. The ECS board does not mention support for the 3.0GB SATAII. So setting the pin for 1.5GB SATA I should stop the freezing & allow you to see the drive.

    Once the SATA drive is listed in the bios everything should go well. It's the simple things that are missed.

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Jul 03, 2008

    A true serial ATA SATA II drive comes with a pin jumper already set.

    The system (Motherboard) can only function at 1.5BG's the SATA controller will automatically reduce the SATA II down to SATA I = 1.5GB's.

    This is not true for all SATA drives. I have the manual for you're board & have gone over this issue. It states the motherboard can run a SATA drive. It does not say which speed it supports but knowing a little about the SATA speeds & the make-up of the motherboard I'd say it should be able to run at 1.5GB's. (Why else would you have two SATA ports)?

    The manual says, the board uses, two-channel Serial ATA/RAID hard disk controller.

    The board can run a SATA I = 1.5GBs drive. None of this matters if the bios does not see the SATA hard drive. As I mentioned before, if the bios does not see the drive neither will windows. In such cases if the bios does not see the drive it is possible that the serial ATA hard disk controller is defective.

    I am using three serial ATA SATA I drives & one SATA II drive. My SATA II runs at 1.5GB's because my board does not fully support SATA II. So the controller split the speed down to 2x1.5GB channels. My previous board's SATA controller was defective. My bios did not see the SATA drives. You're Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB drive should be in a better board that supports the F1's speed. In any case, I still beleive the controller is at fault. If you wish to try & reduse the speed down to PATA 133, please by all means do so. You have nothing to loose.

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