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Oven Bake problem

I just went looking for a glow bar and found an additional ignition unit and gas manifold under the drip pan.
I did not realize this assembly was there. I will focuse on its opperation.

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KESC308LLSO Both of the left -side cooktop eyes won't turn on (the right-side work fine), and the broiler element won't turn on. Our home electrical box was struck by lightening and has been...


Hi,If the model range you have this listed under is correct, the problem more than likely is a bad igniter on the Bake manifold. Each manifold has its own igniter. Since the bake feature gets used more often it tends to wear out faster. The following link explains oven igniters and how to replace one:

This advice is for GAS ovens with glow bar type igniters. This is a fairly simple repair that MOST do-it-yourselfers can accomplish with just a little guidance. But, first, here?s a little gas oven theory to help you better understand how to determine if an igniter is bad:

The way the ignition system in most of today?s ovens work is like this:

Set the oven or broiler temperature.
The igniter begins to glow.
Once the igniter reaches a certain current potential, the gas safety valve opens.
Gas is introduced into the manifold and you have ignition.
NOTE: It can take roughly 30 ? 90 seconds from the time you set your oven temp to the time it takes for the gas to ignite.


NOTE: This is a designed safety feature of the oven to prevent free flowing gas from accumulating in your home without ignition. That?s why you typically don?t hear any gas flowing when you have an igniter problem. You might think you have a gas problem when actually you have an ignition problem.

TWO BASIC IGNITER TYPES:

Carborundum (Cylindrical in shape) ? needs to produce 2.5 to 3.0 amps for the gas safety valve to work.
Norton (Rectangular in shape) ? needs to produce 3.2 to 3.7 amps for the gas safety valve to work.

NOTE: There is a UNIVERSAL FLAT BAR igniter on the market as well, that can be used as a substitute if the igniter type that came with your range is not available.

An easy way to determine if you may have an igniter problem is to check BOTH your oven features. If the oven doesn?t light, check the broiler and vice versa. Since both the BROIL manifold and BAKE manifold are fed from the same gas source, but have separate igniters, it?s an easy assumption to make that the igniter may be bad, if one or the other doesn?t light.

The igniter typically goes bad in one of two ways, the igniter either stops glowing completely, or becomes weak over time and doesn?t produce enough current to open the gas safety valve (in this case the igniter will still glow but the oven still won?t light). Longer ignition times can be another symptom of an igniter possibly going bad.

For this solution, however, we?re going to assume you have a bad igniter and need to replace it. Follows these steps:

NOTE: The same method applies to both the broiler and bake manifold.

UNPLUG the range and turn the gas off if you have a local gas cut-out valve (it is recommended that you do).
Open oven door and remove (if possible). Refer to your owner?s manual to see if there are instructions on how to remove the oven door. Some have spring-loaded locking hinges, while others just lift out. If you cannot figure out how to remove the oven door, use care not to lean on the door or put too much weight on it. A common complaint following any kind of oven maintenance is that the oven door doesn?t shut correctly any longer. This is usually caused by bending the hinges or springs coming loose.
Remove the oven racks, and remove the oven pan. (There are usually two screws either in the back or front of the oven holding the pan in place).
Remove the Flame Spreader. This is a metal plate on top of the manifold.
The igniter will be mounted directly to the gas manifold. Follow the wires that lead to igniter. It will either be plugged into a connector, or be connected together with ceramic wire lugs. Your replacement igniter should come with extra ceramic wire lugs. In the event the plug does not match the one on your range, cut the wires and connect using the ceramic wire lugs. DO NOT use standard wire lugs, they are not heat resistant and will melt.
Unplug the old igniter and remove the mounting screw holding it to the gas manifold.
Install new igniter on gas manifold using care not to handle the element on the igniter with your hands. The oil from your hands can cause damage and/or premature failure. The igniter is also considered FRAGILE.
Reconnect the wires using the recommendations mentioned in Step 5.
Plug in the range, turn the gas valve back on and do a visual test by setting the oven temperature to the desired range. Allow 30 ? 90 seconds for the igniter to light the gas. Turn oven off and allow sufficient time to cool. If the oven has only been lit for a minute or so, the cool down period will be brief.
Reinstall the flame spreader, oven pan, and racks. Reinstall door if necessary.


Most igniters cost around $50. Prices will vary with models. I hope this information is helpful.




Good sources to find a replacement igniter include:

searspartsdirect.com*
appliancepartspros.com*
pcappliancerepair.com
repairclinic.com

All these sites offer great service with competitive pricing, so shop all of them for the best price.

* These two sites also provided excellent exploded view diagrams to assist in part identification and assembly.

If you have any questions about this repair, please let me know. I hope you find this information helpful.


Browse below to find the part or product that you need.:

http://www.apwagner.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_170&sort=20a&filter_id=10&alpha_filter_id=0

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Gas oven not getting hot - glow bar works but no gas to burner


This happens when an oven igniter (glow bar) is bad. The igniter must draw enough amps to turn on the gas to ignite the flame. If you have a square shaped igniter use this part#5303935066 If your have a round shaped igniter use part#wb2x9154. These igniter will pretty much work universally for most gas ranges or ovens.
  1. Remove the racks
  2. Unplug unit
  3. Take out the screw holding the bottom pan
  4. Remove screws holding manifold where igniter is attached
  5. Remove manifold cut wires about 2in link from igniter and clean leads.
  6. Unscrew and remove igniter
  7. Replace Igniter with new one and fasten onto manifold
  8. Clean wires and screw on ceramic nuts to wires
  9. Tuck wires back and Reinstall all components
Test your new igniter. You might notice it taking a little longer to light up but that is okay.
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Hi,
My bet is that the broiler ignitor has been out for a while and you just never knew it...
I would change the ignitor as a first try to fix it it is themost common failure..


http://www.fixya.com/support/r3663023-oven_not_working_or_oven_not_heating

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IGNITER GLOWS RED HOT OVEN DOES NOT IGNITE


Just because an igniter glows does not mean it is good. The following link explains a little theory about glow bar style igniters and how to replace one:

http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

An igniter will become weak with age. Most gas ranges have a separate igniter for each oven manifold (one for Bake, and one for Broil). The bake igniter usually requires replacement more often due to frequency of use. If the broiler still works, you do not have a gas problem as both manifolds are usually fed from the same gas regulator and safety valve.

Replacement igniters can be purchased at any of the following websites:

searspartsdirect.com
pcappliancerepair.com
appliancepartspros.com
repairclinic.com

Use whatever parts source you like, but I found these sites to offer the best service. Prices vary between them so shop around for the best deal.

If you have questions about this repair, or require additional assistance, please let me know. I hope this helps you.

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Most modern stoves no longer have a pilot. The problem is more than likely caused by a bad igniter on the bake manifold. The following link explains igniter types and how to replace one:

http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

Modern stoves are equipped with either a glow-bar or spark type igniter. These igniters do become weak with age and fail. This tends to be more common with the bake feature because it gets used more often. If the igniter is worn to the point that it longer produces the correct current potential or spark, the gas valve will not open and you will not have ignition. This is actually a designed safety feature that prevents free flowing gas from entering the oven cavity without ignition. Such a condition would be dangerous and could cause a flash ignition or explosion.

If the model number you have this listed under is correct, you can see an illustration of your stove at appliancepartspros.com. Just type in the model number and look under the "Gas Burner Parts" section for item number 28 (part #AP2014008).

If you have questions, or require additional assistance, please post back and let me know. I hope this is helpful to you.

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Check your igniter for the bake manifold. Open the oven door and look down at the bottom oven pan. Set the oven to bake and see if you can notice a glowing or clicking noise coming from under the oven pan. This will tell you if your igniter is attempting to work or not.

Now...just because an igniter glows or clicks does not necessarily mean it is good. They can become weak with age and fail to draw the required current to open the gas safety valve. The bake igniter commonly goes bad first, because of the frequency it gets used. The following link will explain:

http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

If you have questions, or require addtional assistance, please let me know. I hope you find this information helpful.

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If everything works on your range, but the oven, the most likely culprit is the igniter for the BAKE manifold. What is confusing me, though is the statement in your question where you say the "oven will light up, but never get hot". Yet, you say the oven does not ignite. Can you clarify this? In some ovens the BAKE and BROIL manifolds BOTH light when preheating, to reduce the warm up time. Once the desired temperature is reached the manifold not in use, will shut off.

In any case, on a gas range, the burners for the BAKE and BROIL manifolds use an electric glow bar type igniter. There's a separate igniter for EACH burner. When you make a bake or broil selection on your oven control, the respective igniter begins to glow. After the igniter reaches a certain current potential, the gas safety valve is opened, gas flows to the manifold, and voila! You have ignition. It can take as long as 90 seconds for the burner to ignite. What can happen over time, is the igniter becomes weak or fails. If the igniter becomes weak, it will still glow, but it never reaches the desired current potential to open the gas safety valve. The result: you end up with an igniter glowing with no ignition. And, if you're like me, you're left scratching your head wondering why the thing isn't working when it "looks" like it is. You can easily tell if the igniter is working by opening your oven door and selecting bake. Watch the oven pan in the bottom of the oven. You should see an orange glow coming from under it. It here's no glow at all, the igniter has probably failed. If there IS a glow, a current reading will tell if it's within tolerance. The following link explains more on these igniters and how to replace one:

http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

The bake igniter is a common fail item as it gets used more frequently than the broil function. On your range both igniters are interchangeable. You can purchase replacements on line at searspartsdirect.com, repairclinic.com, or appliancepartspros.com. The part number is WB2X9154. Shop all three sites for the best price.

I hope this helps you. If my assessment of your symptoms is wrong, or if you need further assistance, please let me know.

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The gas oven won't ignite BUT the broiler will


If the oven broiler lights, but the bake manifold does not, you more than likely have a bad igniter. There is a separate igniter for the bake and broil manifolds. Since the bake feature gets used more frequently, it is common for it to wear out faster. The following link explains oven igniters:

http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

You can remove the bottom panel of the oven and the flame spreader to get a good view of the igniter for an initial visual inspection. NOTE: Just because an igniter glows, does not mean it is good. As I stated before, they do become weaker with age and may not produce enough current to open the gas valve. I hope this information helps you. Please post back with your complete model number if you require additional assistance.

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I am assuming the BROILER works fine in the oven, right? If so, you may have a bad igniter for the BAKE manifold. It is common for them to wear out or become weak. Since the BROILER is not commonly used as much as the BAKE function, the BAKE igniter tends to wear out faster. You can check the igniter by removing the bottom plate of the oven, exposing the BAKE manifold. There will be a glow bar type igniter that begins to glow when the turn the oven on to preheat. If the igniter does not glow...a resistance reading will determine if it still good or not. It should read a low resistance if good. If the igniter glows, but still does not ignite, take a current reading. The igniter will have a current reading of 3.2 to 3.7 amps if good. In either case, if you do not get the desired readings, simply replace the igniter. There are two types of igniters listed under your model number:

Horizontal Mount - Part: #1034629 Price: $44.50
Vertical Mount - Part: #949510 Price: $41.70

This depends on how yours is mounted. Refer to your owners manual to see if there is a parts index listing. I hope this helps you. Post back with comments if I can assist any further.

CAUTION: Make sure you disconnect power from the range BEFORE connecting meter leads to the igniter leads. The igniter connector is usually found under the oven behind the lower drawer. In addition: if you DO purchase a new igniter, use care in handling it. The oil from your hands can potentially damage the igniter coil if you are not careful. This will result in a shorter life expectancy.

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