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Babylock Eclipse SX won't catch the overlock stitch

My babylcok eclipse is set up for 4 threads, the left needle thread is looping under the fabric, while the right needle thread is not catching in the stitch and there is no overlock forming. I have set th tensions to 0 and made sure they were free of obstruction before resetting them to 4. I have rethreaded the machine several times, have made sure the differential is set to N, and I cannot get this thing to serge a seam. I was able to get it to serge about 3 inches and then it went back to the same mess. HELP

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  • Lchris Jul 22, 2008

    It turned out to be the needles. I had taken them out and replaced them, but the one I had used was bent slightly. I did not thing the needle would have made this much difference but it did!

  • Anonymous Mar 18, 2014

    This overlocker does not want to stitch and I suspect that it has to do with setting the timing...

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  • the factory default settings are 4,4,4,4 and M
  • Change the needles
  • use a can of air spray ( compressed air can sold in computer stores) to ensure there is no fabric or dust under the needle plate

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For knits with lycra in, you are best to thread up four threads and seam with the 4 thread marrowing stitch like this, preferabbly with ball point needles in your overlocker, size 80. Use cones of polyester thread, 3,000 metres or 5,000 metres rather than normal thread. (Although if you have trouble matching thread colours you can use a small reel on the left needle as this is the thread that will show on the right side of the garment.)

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If the opposite is happening and the threads are looping off the edge of the fabric, then move the cutting blade to the right to trim less fabric, test again. If still too loose, then tighten up the top and bottom looper tensions by a small amount and test again.

You want the seam to lie flat, the two looper threads to meet right on the cut edge and the needle thread to be just visible from the right side when you press open the seam.

There is always a small amount of adjustments needed on an overlocker when setting up for a new project as every fabric will behave differently. Don't tighten up the tension on the needles much past 5 though, or you may get thread breakage.

If you find that the seam is flutting then you can use the differential feed to adjust for this too.

There is some good overlocking info on Debbie Cosgroves website, www.sewing.about.com, with images which may help too.

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Firstly there is a stitch finger that you need to change or retract so that the thread can roll the fabric rather than staying flat. For a normal seam this finger sticks out in the area where the loopers and needle form the stitch holding the cut edge flat until the seam is made over it. But for rolled hems you want to retract this finger so it does roll.

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Test stitch and adjust upper and lower looper until this is happening.

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Because of the stitch density this uses thread so do the finessing first, then turn the length down.

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Is there a diagram for how to thread on the inside of the door ?

Follow that slowly and carefully to make sure you have not missed any thread guides on the way, as each one needs to be followed through to ensure correct tension and thread progression.

If you are certain that all threaded correctly, did you have a fabric jam and pulled it loose ? If so, the timing may well be affected.

Post an update and we'll get this right.

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