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Thermostat X5

The thermostat of my x5 is burnt.
the machine is out of warranty.
I want to try to fix the thermostat by replacing the burnt electric components.
Is it possible ? I just need to find the correct components.
Any suggestions?
Is anybody available to send me or post somewhere a hight quality picture of the thermostat so i can read the specifications of the missing components?

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If you didn't already catapult your X5 onto the nearest expressway, send me your email address & I will see if I can send you a photo - this site limits to 150K and I don't think that will cut it.

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Posted on Oct 18, 2008


Thank you Spants,
I actually see that my t'stat is burnt.
I agree with you : "there's no way in hell I'm sending this machine across the world to factory service"

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Have you actually seen that your t'stat is burnt, or is the machine just acting like it is? If not, check. I found that my heating element had corroded through. Unbelievably, this doesn't result in immediate failure, nor death, etc, though it sure ain't what UL might have hoped for - and it acts like a busted t'stat. The machine will keep heating, though irregularly, completely ignoring any switching in the thermostat, being regulated only by a crappy snap-disc "catastrophe-preventer" switch. The t'stat is set up for some lame reason only to switch the neutral side, flying in the face of basic safety in electrical design. The corroded-through element seeks a ground, right through the boiler water, through the case ground, and (assuming you have a working three-wire electrical system) you won't know the difference, as long as you don't let your boiler run dry...though your electrician might be in for a little surprise elsewhere in your house if he opens that ground-line while your machine is on. I'm now trying to match up the element with something close, since there's no way in hell I'm sending this machine across the world to factory service.

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