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How to open the RPS motor?

I've the f51 code and what do I need to open the washer from the bottom? What type of screw driver ? I also have Ld code but the drain pipe is clean, sears tech thinks its the cpu is bad.

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Whirlpool has changed the RPS connector design, providing a more reliable connection. The control has also been updated for better sensing of the RPS sensor. Also, if you have experienced problems with certain wash loads getting tangled and knotted, there is also an update washplate intended to reduce this issue. You should contact Whirlpool for possible repair concessions related to these issues.

If you would like to get to the RPS sensor.. Here's how:

In some cases, the F51 code can be fixed by cleaning the RPS sensor connector. The RPS sensor is located on the motor armature underneath the machine.
1. Tilt the machine backwards, resting the console against the wall.
2. using a disposer tool or suitable hex wrench loosen the center stator screw completely (the screw is captive and will not fall out of hole).
3. The stator contains a series of strong magnets and will take some tugging and wiggling to pull off.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that secure the armature to the tub. CAREFUL this assembly is a little heavy, support well before removing last bolt.
5. The RPS sensor is attached to the armature. Remove and insert RPS connector (the one with 6 wires) 10 times to 'wipe' the contacts providing a cleaning action.

The 'Ld' issue may be related to debris caught in the drain pump impeller. To access, remove rear panel. The drain pump will be on the left side mounted to the tub. Remove hoses and inspect for debris in the pump impeller.

Hope this help..If you need further assistance, let me know

Regards;

reg501

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Posted on Jun 20, 2008

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Whirlpool has changed the RPS connector design, providing a more reliable connection and is available as a service kit. The control has also been updated for better sensing of the RPS. Also, if you have experienced problems with certain wash loads getting tangled and knotted, there is also an update washplate intended to reduce this issue. You should contact Whirlpool for possible repair concessions related to these issues.

If you would like to get to the RPS and try cleaning it.. Here's how:

In some cases, the F51 code can be fixed by cleaning the RPS connector. The RPS is located on the motor armature underneath the machine.
1. Tilt the machine backwards, resting the console against the wall.
2. using a disposer tool or suitable hex wrench loosen the center stator screw completely (the screw is captive and will not fall out of hole).
3. The stator contains a series of strong magnets and will take some tugging and wiggling to pull off.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that secure the armature to the tub. CAREFUL this assembly is a little heavy, support well before removing last bolt.
5. The RPS is attached to the armature. Remove and insert RPS connector (the one with 6 wires) 10 times to 'wipe' the contacts providing a cleaning action.

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The F51 fault code on these types of washers indicates that the machine control board detects an RPS (Rotor Position Sensor) failure. This sensor is on the motor at the bottom of the washer.
Here is the troubleshooting for the F51 fault code:
  • Do not overload the washer. Overloading can cause this fault code.
  • Check underneath the washer for any clothes or toys that could be under the washer and obstructing the motor from turning freely. This can occur because there is not a cover on the bottom of the Washer.
  • Using too little water by choosing the wrong cycle for the type of load being washed can cause this fault code.
  • Make sure that your drain hose is properly installed per your installation instructions. Siphoning of fill water out of the washer can cause tub resistance and will result in this fault code.
  • Lift the lid and reach in and make sure that the basket turns freely. If not, you could have garments stuck between the two baskets or a problem with the basket hub. Any abnormal resistance to tub movement can cause this fault.
  • Unplug the washer. Make sure that both the Control Board Connectors P5 (Motor Wires, red, blue and yellow), and the P10 (RPM Sensor Wires, 7 brown wires) are securely plugged into the Control Board.
  • Remove the (P5) Motor Connector from the Control Board and take a resistance reading between the 3 combinations of motor wires (red/blue, red/yellow and blue/yellow). It should read around 32 ohms on the Motor Windings between any of the 3 pins on the harness. NOTE: If you do not get the proper resistance reading on the motor harness at the board, check the reading at the motor end. If you get a good reading replace the upper or Lower Harness whichever is defective. If the reading is still bad when checked directly off of the motor, then you will need to replace the motor. (See notes below for motor access.)
  • Unplug the P10 connector and take a resistance reading between the two outside pins (1 and 7). It should read between 600 and 21.6K ohms. *NOTE: (If it reads open you will need to pull the Rotor and Stator so you can check it right at the RPS Sensor. If it reads good at the sensor replace the Lower, or Upper Harness whichever is open).
  • To access the motor and RPS sensor, lean the washer back against the wall. Secure the washer with blocks if needed. Remove the rotor (1-bolt), and the stator (4-bolts). When you pull the rotor off, check to make sure that the thin plastic beads that run between each magnet on the rotor is intact and in place. This could cause an F51 code as it will no longer separate the poles of the magnet for the sensor to read them properly.
  • Check your wiring connections on the motor and the RPS sensor. Unplug and then plug the wiring harness connections back in on these components 5 or 6 times. This will normally scrape through any possible corrosion or deposits on the connections. Tug slightly on the connections when they are inserted for the final time to make sure that they are secure.
  • Reassemble the washer .

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The F51 error code indicates that the control is not sensing proper motor movement through the signals from the RPS (rotor position sensor) circuit. This can be caused by several different problems. Make sure that you are not overloading the washer. Overloading can cause this problem. A toy or foreign object could be under the washer that is interfering with motor rotation. With the washer empty, spin the basket inside the washer tub to see if it spins relatively easily. If not, you could an item caught between the spin basket and the tub. You could have a wire harness problem causing signals to not be transmitted properly between the RPS and the machine control board. A failed RPS sensor or a failed control board could also cause this problem.

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Here is the troubleshooting for the F51 fault code:
  • Do not overload the washer. Overloading can cause this fault code.
  • Check underneath the washer for any clothes or toys that could be under the washer and obstructing the motor from turning freely. This can occur because there is not a cover on the bottom of the Washer.
  • Using too little water by choosing the wrong cycle for the type of load being washed can cause this fault code.
  • Make sure that your drain hose is properly installed per your installation instructions. Siphoning of fill water out of the washer can cause tub resistance and will result in this fault code.
  • Lift the lid and reach in and make sure that the basket turns freely. If not, you could have garments stuck between the two baskets or a problem with the basket hub. Any abnormal resistance to tub movement can cause this fault.
  • Unplug the washer. Make sure that both the Control Board Connectors P5 (Motor Wires, red, blue and yellow), and the P10 (RPM Sensor Wires, 7 brown wires) are securely plugged into the Control Board.
  • Remove the (P5) Motor Connector from the Control Board and take a resistance reading between the 3 combinations of motor wires (red/blue, red/yellow and blue/yellow). It should read around 32 ohms on the Motor Windings between any of the 3 pins on the harness. NOTE: If you do not get the proper resistance reading on the motor harness at the board, check the reading at the motor end. If you get a good reading replace the upper or Lower Harness whichever is defective. If the reading is still bad when checked directly off of the motor, then you will need to replace the motor. (See notes below for motor access.)
  • Unplug the P10 connector and take a resistance reading between the two outside pins (1 and 7). It should read between 600 and 21.6K ohms. *NOTE: (If it reads open you will need to pull the Rotor and Stator so you can check it right at the RPS Sensor. If it reads good at the sensor replace the Lower, or Upper Harness whichever is open).
  • To access the motor and RPS sensor, lean the washer back against the wall. Secure the washer with blocks if needed. Remove the rotor (1-bolt), and the stator (4-bolts). When you pull the rotor off, check to make sure that the thin plastic beads that run between each magnet on the rotor is intact and in place. This could cause an F51 code as it will no longer separate the poles of the magnet for the sensor to read them properly.
  • Check your wiring connections on the motor and the RPS sensor. Unplug and then plug the wiring harness connections back in on these components 5 or 6 times. This will normally scrape through any possible corrosion or deposits on the connections. Tug slightly on the connections when they are inserted for the final time to make sure that they are secure.
  • Reassemble the washer .

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First disconnect the electrical power to the washer.
Make sure the basket turns freely. (By the way, make sure you are not overloading the washer. Make sure objects, and or clothing are not getting caught on the rotor underneath the washer jamming the rotor. Make sure you are not using too little water by using the wrong cycle for the type of load.)
Lean the washer back so that you can access the motor from the bottom then remove the rotor (1-bolt), and the stator (4-bolts). Make sure the stator and wiring harness have not been twisted causing the connector to twist at the RPS board creating a bad connection.
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This has been a troublesome issue for Whirlpool and many of Whirlpools customers. The F51 code indicates a problem with the RPS (Rotational Speed Sensor) that monitors the motor speed. This issue has been identified as relating to the the connection system between the RPS and the controller.

Whirlpool has changed the RPS connector design, providing a more reliable connection and is available as a service kit. The control has also been updated for better sensing of the RPS. Also, if you have experienced problems with certain wash loads getting tangled and knotted, there is also an update washplate intended to reduce this issue. You should contact Whirlpool for possible repair concessions related to these issues.

If you would like to get to the RPS and try cleaning it.. Here's how:

In some cases, the F51 code can be fixed by cleaning the RPS connector. The RPS is located on the motor armature underneath the machine.
1. Tilt the machine backwards, resting the console against the wall.
2. using a disposer tool or suitable hex wrench loosen the center stator screw completely (the screw is captive and will not fall out of hole).
3. The stator contains a series of strong magnets and will take some tugging and wiggling to pull off.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that secure the armature to the tub. CAREFUL this assembly is a little heavy, support well before removing last bolt.
5. The RPS is attached to the armature. Remove and insert RPS connector (the one with 6 wires) 10 times to 'wipe' the contacts providing a cleaning action.

If you need further assistance, let me know
Regards,
reg501

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This has been a troublesome issue for Whirlpool and many of Whirlpools customers. The F51 code indicates a problem with the RPS (Rotational Speed Sensor) that monitors the motor speed. This issue has been identified as relating to the the connection system between the RPS and the controller.

Whirlpool has changed the RPS connector design, providing a more reliable connection and is available as a service kit. The control has also been updated for better sensing of the RPS. Also, if you have experienced problems with certain wash loads getting tangled and knotted, there is also an update washplate intended to reduce this issue. You should contact Whirlpool for possible repair concessions related to these issues.

If you would like to get to the RPS.. Here's how:

In some cases, the F51 code can be fixed by cleaning the RPS connector. The RPS is located on the motor armature underneath the machine.
1. Tilt the machine backwards, resting the console against the wall.
2. using a disposer tool or suitable hex wrench loosen the center stator screw completely (the screw is captive and will not fall out of hole).
3. The stator contains a series of strong magnets and will take some tugging and wiggling to pull off.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that secure the armature to the tub. CAREFUL this assembly is a little heavy, support well before removing last bolt.
5. The RPS is attached to the armature. Remove and insert RPS connector (the one with 6 wires) 10 times to 'wipe' the contacts providing a cleaning action.

If I can assist you further, please let me know

reg501

The FixYa Team

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