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My car studders from first to second. No transmission codes . possible MAS issuse both read outs sensors came up lean fuel mixture. Opened the MAS an it was clean but cleaned it anyways. The service engine light is still on. Could I just need to replace the MAS even though its clean? maybe wiring is wrong? or bad? Also said fuel injectors could be bad. Heated oxygen sensor? what could it be? Fuel pump??

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Sometimes it's as simple as replacing your gas cap. i know it sounds funny but your codes will resd fuel leak or fuel problem, but if you loose fuel pressure by a leaky gas cap, your codes will read fuel issue, as for the check engine light you can resetyour computer by disconnecting the positive cable only from your battery for 5 to 10 mins. the light will go off, but if you have a faulty sensor, it will, come back on. i would look to a bad egr valve befre i would the 02sensors. good luck and thank you for choosing fixya.com

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Code P0171

P0171 - System Too Lean Bank 1 Share
1 ' Add Comment Possible causes
- Intake air leaks
- Faulty front heated oxygen sensor
- Ignition misfiring
- Faulty fuel injectors
- Exhaust gas leaks
- Incorrect fuel pressure
- Lack of fuel
- Faulty Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor
- Incorrect Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) hose connection
What does this mean? Tech notes
If the P0171 is combined with the P0174 code, it's very likely that the problem is caused by an intake leak. If there are no intake leaks, the next step is to replaced the air filter and clean the air flow meter. If the problem persist the front oxygen (O2) sensor may need to be replaced.
What does this mean? When is the code detected?
- Fuel injection system does not operate properly.
- The amount of mixture ratio compensation is too small. (The mixture ratio is too lean.)
Possible symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Excessive Fuel Consumption
P0171 Description
With the Air/Fuel Mixture Ratio Self-Learning Control, the actual mixture ratio can be brought closely to the theoretical mixture ratio based on the mixture ratio feedback signal from the heated oxygen sensors 1. The Engine Control Module (ECM) calculates the necessary compensation to correct the offset between the actual and the theoretical ratios.
In case the amount of the compensation value is extremely large (The actual mixture ratio is too lean.), the ECM judges the condition as the fuel injection system malfunction and light up the Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) (2 trip detection logic).
Read more: http://www.autocodes.com/p0171.html#ixzz3t65yA9xI
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2003 pickup. What are the probable causes of DTC P0171?

Since you have replaced the sensor, my first guess would be low fuel pressure or a vac leak.
Code 171 means the computer can not make the fuel mixture rich enough to make the sensor switch from lean to rich and back.
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How do I fix a code P0171 (too lean)?

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Can .p1151, .p0174, p0401, .p0153 all be related

Not exactly.
Codes 1151 - 174 - 153 all point to a faulty O2 sensor bank 2 sensor one. That is the sensor ahead of the catalytic converter. All three codes state the sensor is reading the fuel mixture is too lean. It could be lean but you should also have codes for the sensor on bank one.
Code 401 is for a low air flow for the EGR valve which would probably be a different issue. Its possible the EGR valve is faulty and that could affect the fuel mixture but usually for the EGR to cause a lean mixture the EGR would cause a vac leak not fail to open.
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Check engine light was on. OBD II scan said both pre-Cat 02 sensors running lean. Also shows P0000 code which is a undefined code. S dash light comes every few days then transmission will stay stuck in 4th...

The pre cat sensors running lean does not mean they need to be replaced. They are are detecting a symptom. You need to know why.

If you are using a basic scantool (code only) you need to look up the P0000 code.
I thought this an odd code. I looked it up in my Autotap unit and it does not exist. The lowest # P (powertrain) code I have listed is P0016.

A regular scan tool, won't scan transmission or body codes, mu Auto tap doesn't either. You need a Tech 2 from the dealer for transmission codes.

First some history. The first O2 sensor was introduced in 1976 on a Volvo. California vehicles got them next in 1980, then federal emission laws made O2 sensors virtually mandatory on all cars and light trucks built since 1981. And now that OBD-II regulations are here (1996 and newer vehicles), most vehicles now have multiple O2 sensors, some as many as four!
The O2 sensor is mounted in the exhaust manifold to monitor how much unburned oxygen is in the exhaust. The signal from the O2 sensor tells the computer if the fuel mixture is burning rich (less oxygen) or lean (more oxygen).
A lot of factors affect the richness or leanness of the fuel mixture, including air temperature, engine coolant temperature, barometric pressure, throttle position, air flow and engine load. Other sensors monitor these factors too, but the O2 sensor is the master monitor for what's happening with the fuel mixture. Problems with the O2 sensor can throw the whole system out of whack.
The computer uses the oxygen sensor's input to fine tune the fuel mixture for the best balance of power, economy and emissions. The engineering term for this type of operation is "closed loop" because the computer is using the O2 sensor's input to adjust the fuel mixture. The result is a constant flip-flop back and forth from rich to lean which helps the catalytic converter operate at its best and keeps the average fuel mixture in proper balance to minimize emissions. It's a complicated setup but it works.
If no signal is received from the O2 sensor, like when a cold engine is first started (more on that in a minute) or the 02 sensor fails, the computer orders a steady, rich fuel mixture. This is referred to as "open loop" operation because no input is used from the O2 sensor to fine tune the fuel mixture. If the engine fails to go into closed loop when the O2 sensor reaches operating temperature, or drops out of closed loop because the O2 sensor's signal is lost, the engine will run too rich causing an increase in fuel consumption and emissions. As you might have guessed, that will set a code and turn on your check engine light.
How does it work? The O2 sensor produces a voltage once it gets hot. The sensor compares how much oxygen is in the exhaust to the oxygen in outside air. The greater the difference, the higher the voltage reading.
If you ever replace an O2 sensor (and if you're a DIY'er this is something you will do eventually), its important to remember that the O2 sensor needs to "breath" outside air to work. So don't put any grease on the sensor because it could block this air flow.
An oxygen sensor will typically generate up to about 0.9 volts when the fuel mixture is rich and there is little unburned oxygen left in the exhaust. When the mixture is lean, the sensor's output voltage will drop down to about 0.1 volts. When the air/fuel mixture is balanced or at the equilibrium point of about 14.7 to 1, the sensor will read around 0.45 volts.
When the computer reads a rich signal from the O2 sensor it leans the fuel mixture to reduce the sensor's reading. When the O2 sensor reading goes lean the computer reverses again making the fuel mixture go rich. This constant flip-flopping back and forth of the fuel mixture occurs anywhere from 2 to 7 times a second at 2500 rpm on OBDII vehicles, depending on what type of fuel injection system they have.
The oxygen sensor must be hot (about 600 degrees or higher) before it will start to generate a voltage signal. Many oxygen sensors have a small heating element inside to help them reach operating temperature more quickly.
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The O2 sensors are expensive, diagnose what really is going on.
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