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Frothing Milk: It seems whenever the panarello sounds like a high screaming jet, it doesn't froth properly. When it's quiet, it does a great job. I froth EVERY morning. I've had this machine since JAN 2010. I HAD to descale a few weeks ago. Seems as if it started to do this shortly afterwards. I usually put the steamer to the bottom of my stainless steel frothing cup.

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It seems it is partially obstructed by backflowing dried milk protein. Use appropriate cleaning fluid

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  • stavropn Dec 31, 2010

    It seems that it is partially obstructed by backflowing dried milk. Use appropriate cleaning preparation. Descaling is something different

  • MLB1973 May 24, 2011

    I am having this exacct same issue - just got the Saeco Odea Giro Plus last month - have only used it a handful of times. I always remove and clean the Frother components after use. What would the appropriate cleaning fluid be for this issue? Would I use a different cleaning fluid and follow the descaling instructions, or clean by another method not specified in the manual? Thanks so much for your help!!

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