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My machine is getting the waste coffee stuck to the screen inside where it brews, it doesnt make pucks any more they are loose

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Turn the + / - knob in the bean hopper to the + and then back 1 mark. Are the grounds coarse or fine? They should be like coarse sugar through your fingers. If they are very coarse that can be part of the problem. What is your setting on the big knob. It should be around 8 depending on your bean. Only turn the big knob down when the grinder is grinding. You can turn it up any time.

Posted on Nov 14, 2010

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  • mattyblazer Nov 14, 2010

    Looks much better, thanks, the machine is getting old, it was set up around 14, I think that was making it too fine.

  • bansheracer Nov 14, 2010

    14 is to coarse. I have one of these with over 18,000 coffees. Smaller numbers are finer, and larger numbers are coarser. Coarse grounds leave air space for water, and low coffee dose leaves more air, for more water.

  • mattyblazer Nov 14, 2010

    Sounds logical to me, well the 8 setting worked better, the drink came out stronger, and the pucks are firmer, the higher setting was making a mess in the brew group.



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