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My propane tank is at 60% but the fuel is not getting to appliances with enough volume to raise a proper flame at range or keep pilot lit at waterheater. What could the problem be?

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If it is causing a problem on several appliances and your furnace also, then you may have a regulator problem. i woud first check the shut off valves at the tank and anywhere else you have them. make sure they are full open.

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Propane, LP, or Natural Gas Regulator Problems


There are many questions involving problems with gas regulators. Most any gas fired appliances will have a regulator somewhere in the system to regulate the gas pressure to the appliance. On natural gas the pressure regulator is often outside, but many stoves and ranges still have a pressure regulator at the inlet also.

On LP or Propane appliances there is a pressure regulator at the source but then also at the appliance. On outdoor grills the regulator is the silver round thing at the tank.
They often look like this.


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The function of the pressure regulator is to keep the gas pressure even so that the flame does not vary much when the usage is increased or decreased. The regulator does this by using a small spring and diaphragm assembly. The counteracting pressures work to keep the pressure even. The regulator fails when it gets stuck. They are designed intentionally to fail in the safest mode or in a low pressure state rather then a high pressure. Therefore many problems involve not enough gas rather then too much.

On outdoor gas grills the regulator can sometimes get stuck if the tank valve is opened too rapidly. Or it will just become stiff from the outdoor environment. If the regulator is not letting enough gas through, try shutting the valve and then opening it again slowly. This will help sometimes. If that does not help and the valve is sticking, do not try to adjust the regulator. Replace it with a new one. Trying to adjust it could cause serious safety hazards. I have seen some web sites telling people to adjust the regulator by watching the flame…this can be a good way to get yourself and others hurt.

If you have a range, stove, or oven that is not working right because the flame varies as you turn burners on and off or when the oven goes on, then the regulator is at fault. Once again, do not try to adjust this to make it work, replace it and get it adjusted with the proper instruments to make sure that the gas pressure is right for the appliance.

Pressure regulators come in many shapes and sizes. They can look like any one of these here.

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Gas appliances work at extremely low gas pressure. Natural gas appliances often run at 4” Water Column. Lp or Propane at around 10” WC. That means that the pressure of the gas will only raise the water in a tube 4” or 10 “. That is NOT much pressure and you can get that much by gently blowing in a tube.

So, if you are having trouble with not getting enough heat or the flame running very low, the pressure regulator should be one of the first places that you look.

on Sep 03, 2010 | Ovens

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I have a Mr Heater infra red propane wall heater. My problem is it turns itself off (pilot light) after running for an hour or two. I have no problem getting it turned back on but for some reason it d


Your pilot flame should be blue with a small yellow tip, and it should cover the thermocouple (a small rod in front of the pilot light). If the flame is too small and doesn't cover the thermocouple, it may be adjusted too low, or you have low gas pressure or you have a leak in your gas line coming in to the heater. If the flame looks like a lazy yellow flame, you are probably not getting enough air to the flame. Check that your air openings around the pilot are not clogged up. If the flame looks like a waving blue flame then you probably have excessive draft at the pilot. If the pilot flame looks good and covers the thermocouple, then the thermocouple might be bad. Best of luck. I hope I have helped.

Nov 23, 2013 | Heating & Cooling

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Duotherm dowmflow propane furnace the pilot keeps blowing out


There should be an access hole in the gas valve near the pilot gas tube entrance to readjust the pilot pressure. There may also be a small regulator in the tube for adjusting pressure. But if it was OK for years and all of a sudden just started blowing out, its probably a dirty pilot assembly. Also, if you have changed locations of your propane tank to a cooler location, ambient temperatures will lower the pressure of the propane. If your not familiar enough to remove, clean and replace the pilot assembly, you should call a trustworthy tech. There is a definite reason it started blowing out. All possibilities should eliminated before raising pressure. ALWAYS be careful with propane! Unlike natural gas, it is heavier than air and will collect in the tray under the burners and explode when a flame is established. Propane explosions are common. Be VERY careful!!!!!!!

Nov 05, 2013 | Heating & Cooling

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Pilot light too big, how do we adjust pilot light on a Vanguard KV1800?


There is no adjustment for a Pilot Flame's Length on a Vent-free Gas Appliance. However, if you're using Natural Gas and it's a Natural Gas Heater, the normal length of the pilot flame is 2 to 2 1/2".
If it's a Propane Gas Heater and the pilot flame is as long as previously stated, you probably have a pressure problem from your tank. Contact your Propane provider to have them check the pressure on their tank regulator.

Jan 31, 2011 | Vanguard Heating & Cooling

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Pilot light will not lite; plenty of propane. What position does the knob need to be in to lite the pilot. I see pilot, on, and off positions. It is a Williams gas unit direct vent, does not blow hot air...


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The knob needs to be turned so the arrow is pointing at "Pilot". It is the only position you will be able to depress the knob all the way down. Once you light the pilot, keep holding down the knob for 30-60 seconds. When you release the knob, the pilot should stay lit if it's working properly. If not, here's a few things to check. Is the pilot flame blue? Is the flame actually heating the thermocouple end? The thermocouple has to get hot enough to allow the gas to stay on to the pilot. Also look at the tip of the thermocouple. It should be smooth and rounded. If you're pilot flame is a lazy yellow, after time it will burn off the tip of the thermocouple, causing pilot outages. Replacing the thermocouple is usually the easiest fix it and is probably what you will need to do. But if your pilot flame is that lazy yellow, you will also need to clean it by either a tiny broach needle or using canned air (with straw attached). Be careful and because propane is heavier than air, smell low to the floor before lighting it to make sure there is not a gas leak. To be safe, close the gas shut off valve and air out the room before lighting and always follow the manufacturer's lighting instructions printed on the heater. If doing this seems too difficult or scary, then call your local propane co and they will send out a serviceman to fix it for parts and labor. Good luck! Douglas

May 25, 2010 | Heating & Cooling

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Have a 1986 Fleetwood Park Model with a Magic Chef gas oven that will not light. The pilot is lit but the oven burner will not come on. Uses propane gas...it worked last year.


Propane is a "dirty" gas. That can sometimes result in a particle of debris getting lodged in a pilot orifice, causing a low pilot flame. Inspect the burning pilot, look to see that the pilot flame encompasses the thermocouple so that the thermocouple may get hot enough to open the gas valve. If the pilot is too low, sometimes tapping on the pilot assembly with some handy tool will dislodge any restricting particles from the pilot orifice and restore flame size. Make sure that the pilot or thermocouple have not been struck by some object and knocked out of place. If the flame and thermocouple seem OK, you may have a bad thermocouple. Before replacing the thermocouple, loosen and re-tighten it's connecting nut at the valve (follow the thermocouple "wire" to find the valve) , if the connection is poor, sometimes that will restore good contact.
Also to note: the pilot will be at minimum when the control valve is "off", the pilot flame size should at least double when the control valve is turned on. Be careful, that is gas you are working with.

Feb 03, 2010 | Magic Chef Kitchen Ranges

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Pilot lites; but, as soon as I turn on gas flame


sounds like your thermacouplar is going out and needs replaced. Sometimes these will act like they are working fine , but when the pilot stays on for awhile and later goes out it is a sure sign that it is bad

Nov 08, 2009 | Procom ML300TBA Heater

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Can't get propane heater to lite


Not enough information to solve the problem correctly but I'll take a guess at it......

This heater requires a 100lb propane tank (approx. 25gal) with 1/2" or larger piping to deliver the correct volume of gas to the heater. If you are using a smaller tank (like a 10gal) or the piping is not the correct size you will not get enough gas to the heater to light the pilot. Also you should have a regulator set at 11" to 14" of water column installed between the tank and the heater. If the tank is connected directly to the heater you may have damaged the internal regulator in the heater.

Jan 02, 2009 | Procom ML300TBA Heater

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