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I have a Woods 59017 mechanical timer with three wires: white, black and red. My wall switch has three wires: two black and one red. There is also two white wires in the wall that are connected together but not to the wall switch. Need to know how to connect timer wires with switch wires!

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  • catherine603 Nov 11, 2010

    O.K. I went to the link, and see "How to replace ordinary wall switch with timer" but I'm still confused. Since I have two black and one red in my wall switch, the color of the wires on the picture on the link don't match. I understand the timer red, white, black - but still don't know what to do with the switch since there's no white, just two black and a red?

  • catherine603 Nov 11, 2010

    I need to understand how to connect a wall timer with three wires: white, red and black to a wall switch rocker type, with a red wire at the top and two black wires at the bottom. The instructions and the wall switch diagrams I have reviewed so far do not address the differences in wire colors. I need to know which wires on the wall timer go with which wires on the rocker wall switch!

  • catherine603 Nov 12, 2010

    Thanks...its not a three way switch from what I understand (there's only one wall switch that controls these lights) but it does look to have two sets of outdoor lights connected to the one switch - which I think is what the two black wires are from the base of the rocker switch. There are wall timers for three-way switches, so perhaps I need to look at those, even though this doesn't have two wall switches controlling the lights. Appreciate the clarification.

  • catherine603 Nov 12, 2010

    Yes, this answer does give some clarification. Although its not a classic three way switch - the wall switch appears to have two sets of ourdoor lights connected into the one switch, which would explain the two black wires. I will look at three-way wall timers, which they also make and see if this will address my problem.

  • catherine603 Nov 12, 2010

    Thank you! I will give this a try when I get to the house tonight. This sounds reasonable...and I expected that I would need to combine the two black wires on the switch to a single wire on the timer. Thanks again

  • catherine603 Nov 13, 2010

    Hello....I did as you suggested above, and although the lights are on - the timer appers inoperable and I can't turn the lights off! I think I need to swtich the wires around, but not sure?I hooked what I thought was the power feed (red on the switch) to the black of the timer. Then I took the two blacks on the switch and connected them to the red timer wire, and white to the whites....HELP!

  • catherine603 Nov 15, 2010

    Hi...I swtiched around the black and red wires, and it works! Apparently the two black wires "complete the circuit" which is why the lights stayed on all the time. I reversed one of the black and red wires....and now things seem to be connected properly. Thanks for your help and patience.

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Hi,

It sounds like the wall switch that you have already is a three way switch... the timer will not work in a three way application...
So... you cannot hook that uo to there and make it work correctly...

heatman101

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    D. Floyd Kolb Nov 12, 2010

    okay, that helps....trh this...



    Find which black or red wire is the power feed and hook that to the black of the timer....then hook the other two wires to the red timer wire....they could be black or red...



    then hook the white timer wire to the other whites....



    this should work for yyou....


  • D. Floyd Kolb
    D. Floyd Kolb Nov 14, 2010

    If you have an OHM meter check the timer with no wires hooked and make sure that it is good and that there is no continuity between the red and black wires with it in off position...it may be a bad one...

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    D. Floyd Kolb Nov 15, 2010

    Wonderful!!!! It is always a bit more difficult working with someone else's hands.... :-) but I always glad when positive things come about...

    Enjoy!!

    heatman101

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Ok, well the Black, and Red are PHASE IN, BLACK, PHASE OUT RED. Common is White.
How a Timer works is by Switching the Phase wire ONLY, the timer consists of essentially a switch, and an activating mechanism, driven by a small motor, the internal switch, is opened or closed, and disconnects and connects accordingly. The return for the circuit, the Neutral wire, it is simply commoned up.(Joined to all the other Whites)
In USA Black, is PHASE White is NEUTRAL,. GREEN is Earth.
In Europe etc, RED is PHASE and BLACK is NEUTRAL, GREEN/YELLOW is Earth.
ALWAYS check first though.. by metering the connections
FIRST please read the things at this website below.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Programmable.html

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Apr 22, 2013 | Woods Mechanical Inwall Timer 59017

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Find the time now arrow to reset


1) Question posted under Woods 59017 analog timer.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59017

2) On the Woods 59017, the 'arrow' or triangle is a hollow triangle shape on inner timer dial. It points at the 3:00 position.
Manually rotate dial until current time lines up with arrow, arrowhead, or triangle.

3) On other analog timers, the time-now 'arrow' is usually small dark-colored triangle or arrowhead located on stationary part of inner dial.

4) Open following link to see how to set and use analog timers by experimenting with each feature.
Plus images of time-now arrowhead or triangle.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-set-timers.html

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Sep 04, 2011 | Woods 59017 Mechanical Repeats Daily Wall...

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I have the 59017 Mechanical. I set the pins and turned on in timer mode. It comes on at specified time, goes off after specified time, but then does not come on again the next night.


I don't have repair for defective timer:
If Load and Line wires are reversed, that could explain problem. Reverse timer red and timer black wires. Symptom of this problem: the clock dial stops rotating after tripper pin.

Troubleshoot run-through:
1) Use fingers and manually rotate timer dial several times and watch if Load turns ON-and-OFF
This will tell you if load is operational, and pins are set correctly.
2) Set slide switch to Timer.
3) Make sure timer is wired correctly. This timer needs neutral wire to operate clock motor. Open following link to see illustration and read about wiring. Line and load wires must be correct.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/GE-15070-wiring-1-500.jpg
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59017
4) Check that wire nuts are attached very tight and there are no loose wires.

Additional resource:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-set-timers.html

Aug 21, 2011 | Woods Mechanical Inwall Timer 59017

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Hi, we just got a new woods 59017 timer, and the dial turned until it turned off, at the point that we indicated, but after it turned off, the dial remained stuck in its place and will not turn any...


You have new 59017 single-pole in-wall 24-hour timer with tripper pins located on dial.
Timer is heavy duty and will handle up to 2500Watts 1 HP, including anything typically controlled by 15-20Amp light switch: incandescent, florescent, CFL, motor, pump, AC, whole house fan, etc.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Woods-59017-mechanical-timer-300.jpg

When timer is wired correctly, timer dial rotates no matter which position slide switch is set to.
Your dial rotated correctly and turned lamp ON, and rotated correctly until lamp turned OFF, and then stopped rotating.
This implies loss of power.
Check circuit breaker.
Check for loose wire on timer installation.
If wiring checks out, then timer is suspect. Replace different switch with suspect timer, and see if timer works on different Load.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/GE-15070-wiring-1-500.jpg
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59017

Aug 08, 2011 | Woods Mechanical Inwall Timer 59017

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Hello! I have a 59017 timer, and this is my problem: When I put the timer in Timer option, If I have all the pins in off, the timer run ok, but if I put one Pin in On mode, The timer run ok but when find...


You don't say if this is new timer installation.
Or if timer was working before and suddenly stopped working.

I also own Woods 59017 timer from Home Depot.

1) New timer installation:
Open following link to access manual and read wiring instructions.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59017

2) Old timer that stopped working:
If timer dial does not rotate, then the timer is broken, does not have power, or is wired wrong.
If timer stalls when it gets to a pin, then the clock motor has gotten weak, and is overheated and will stop working.

3) Buy new GE 15070 timer from Home Depot for $18
http://waterheatertimer.org/GE-timers-and-manuals.html#15070
4) Buy new Woods 59017 at Amazon for $11 plus shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Woods-59017-Mechanical-Repeats-Switch/dp/B002MO3LWQ

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Mar 03, 2011 | Woods Mechanical Inwall Timer 59017

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I am replacing a light switch with a woods 59007 timer switch that has red, black, green and white wires.The current switch has only black, white and a bare wire and no other red or black wire. What do I...


1) Woods 59000 series in-wall countdown timer has extra wire to run electronic clock circuit inside timer, just like plugging in ordinary alarm clock.

2) Open following link for wiring instructions, and to download online manual:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59000

3) Instructions:
How to wire 59000 and 59017 in-wall timers
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 wires. Take switch wires and connect to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground along with green wire.
5) Turn on electricity, and push ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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Feb 21, 2011 | Woods Hardware & Accessories

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The dial doesn't advance in time but the light works when I manuallly move the dial


You posted under Woods 59017 timer.

1) If this is a new installation, then timer is wired incorrectly.
White wire is probably wrong, white wire is connected to Neutral wire or ground wire so timer motor operates.
Open link to identify product for sure and read detailed wiring instructions.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59017

2) If timer worked in the past, and stopped working, then it sounds like timer has gone bad.
Buy another 59017 from Home Depot, and then take defective one back with receipt.

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Dec 22, 2010 | Woods 59017 Mechanical Repeats Daily Wall...

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I'm trying to install this Woods 59008 automatic fan timer in the bathroom. My old on/off switch only has three wires....and I that a light switch next to that. The woods 59008 has a red, black, white...


Sure George.

These in-wall timers have extra wire to operate the electronics located inside timer.
You said your old switch has 3 wires.
The new timer can only replace on-off switch that has 2 brass screws and a green screw.
If old switch has 2 brass screws and a dark screw, that is a 3-way switch.
Typically a 3-way switch is found at both ends of hallway.
The Woods 95008 countdown timer is not made to replace 3-way:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59000

Here's what to do:
1) Switch has 2 wires (plus bare ground wire). Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
2) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires. This wire will power timer electronics.
3) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.
4) Turn on electricity, and push override button located below the OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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Dec 22, 2010 | Woods Ind 59008 Digital Timer

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Can't seem to figure it out. Directions are not specific enough. We set "the time now", but the white/AM, dark/PM is weird. Please help w/ directions. We need the light for chicken house. Light on 5:00 AM...


What kind of Woods timer do you have?

Is the dial turning? The dial is the clock. And the clock needs electricity to work, just like alarm clock. If dial is not turning, the wiring is not right.

Does the manual override turn on the lights? Maybe the slider switch set to OFF? Set slider to "Timer" for timer functions to work.

Wall timer:
If you have 59017 wall timer, it has dark PM white AM. You rotate dial until correct time lines up with little triangle located on right side of center knob.
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There are 48 plastic pins on dial ... when pins are moved out, the lights are off. For timer functions, set slide switch to 'Timer'
Correct wiring is needed for timer to work:
Timer black attaches to Hot wire from breaker box
Timer red attaches to wire going to Load (lights)
Timer white must attach to white Neutral (or if your box has no neutral, connect white to bare ground)
Timer green connects to bare ground

If wiring seems right but dial on front of timer is still not rotating, then reverse Timer red and Timer black and see if that sorts out problem.

If this is wrong Woods timer, please re-post question.

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