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40 amp gfi on hot tub keeps tripping.I have a 50 amp.can I use?

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Your hot tub needs GFI protection because it is electrical, and people sit inside water that could be exposed to electric current.
You have a fault to ground that needs to be fixed.

Size 8 wire for 50Amp breaker.
Size 6 if tub is 50-100' feet away
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html

Posted on Nov 09, 2010

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