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I have the 691pass&seymour toggle switch/outlet, the way the electric was wired over 40+years ago does not look right? but I would like to install this new switch. on the old switch on the right side they have a black wire at the top and a orange wire at the bottom connected. and nothing grounded, in the wall in the back they have 3 black wires in a wire nut with one of the wires going to the old switch,( thats the one at the top.) then they have 2white wires with a wire nut together and 2blue wires with a wire nut together. pushed in the back. my new switch has 2 brass screws on the right for hot and 1brass screw on the top left and 1 silver screw on bottom left and a ground nut at very bottom left. the orange wire travels some place into the conduit? so what should I do?? thank you.

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Thank you for the clear description of your P&S device.
You need to test your wires.
We are looking for the Hot, Neutral and Load wires.

Your old switch has two wires.
One of these wires is the Hot (I suspect 100% that the wire that comes from the other wires that are twisted together is the Hot)
The other is Load

Separate the old switch wires and turn on power.
Use ordinary tester.
Test each wire to metal box and see if the box is grounded.
Tester will light up on Hot wire.
You can also test each of the old switch wires to the other wires in the box.

1) Hot: Once you determine the Hot wire, this wire will connect to the P&S device:
Hot connects to the brass screws on right side, just as you said ... and these screws are on opposite side from silver screw.

2) Load: The wire to Load connects to brass screw on top left, which is on same side of device as silver screw. This screw sits opposite the P&S switch.

The last wire is the Neutral.
Test your Hot wire to all other wires in the box.
When the tester lights up, that is the Neutral

3) Neutral connects to silver screw which will complete the circuit to the P&S receptacle.

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