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Cut out floor flange for Parma toilet model FB1625

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If the toilet does not sit fully on the floor then it will need to be shimmed. Use plastic, fiberglass or composite shims to level the toilet. Wood shims will rot. Caulk around the front and sides of the toilet to hide the shims. Do not caulk around the back as if the toilet leaks you will not be able to tell if it is fully caulked. Epoxying the flange will work however you will want to check with local building codes to ensure this is compliant.

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How to fix a new toilet flange so it will not leaked down onto the drain pipe


Hi Connie.

Hoping I'm visualizing this properly. The stand pipe under the house is generally pointing upward and has a flange on it. The toilet will have an indent on the bottom that is somewhat larger that the flange diameter. Then there will be a wax ring that is seated around the neck of the flange right before the toilet is placed down on top of it. The general process is that a new wax ring is placed, the toilet is lifted and, as carefully as possible, lowered straight down over the floor bolts. Once it makes contact on the floor, the toilet is gently rotated a small bit clockwise and counterclockwise to make sure that there is a good solid contact with the wax. The toilet is set square to the wall and, hopefully, with the floor bolts centered on the slots. Someone sits down carefully on the toilet to put pressure on the wax and seal it (this should not be done on a cold day, as the wax may not flow, and may even crack and leave a gap).

From what I saw you write, my questions would be whether the wax gasket was installed. if not, pull the toilet, obtain a gasket, and try again. if one was installed, were the remains of the old gasket thoroughly cleaned away from flange and toilet bottom? if not, the old wax may have cause uneven flow/sealing with the new ring (too much wax in the space).

You can also check that the leak isn't coming from higher up, like at the join from bowl to tank. If it's leaking there, depending on your toilet model, it might leak once the flapper is lifted in the tank, flow down the back outside of the toilet, and down under the house. In that case, it could be a bad seal, or the tank-to-toilet bolts not having been tightened.

Hoping this gives you some ideas

D

Dec 01, 2015 | Home

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Kohler Toilet 1.6 Gallon Flush Install Tips. We just recently installed two of...


Kohler Toilet 1.6 Gallon Flush Install Tips.

We just recently installed two of these and they work perfectly.

LESSONS LEARNED:

-This is a almost complete in box and needs to only install the tank and seat. It also came with a new wax ring and bolts.
-What you also need is Full ring flange repair kit, (this is a round metal ring that goes over the existing plastic flange on the floor), put in as many screws as you can. On both we broke the plastic flange while installing the bolts. also the second one we also added a washer on the back side of the metal flange repair ring this made the connection even stronger.
-The new bolts that hold the toilet to the floor will be to long and an need to be cut off. Don't just try to brake it off, we ran in to big trouble and is how we broke the flange.
-Lastly go ahead and use Tub sealant and put a bead around the floor and base of toilet, this will keep it more secure and not allow any fluids to seep under the toilet and start smelling.

Hope this tip helps.

R/
David

on Feb 15, 2010 | Plumbing

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I have neptune parma toilet, which was purchased 6 months ago. It was working fine but now it has a problem with filling up. It takes a minute before it will start filling up then it makes noise like...


This is usually the fill valve. Try adjusting the water height. If that doesn't work, you can replace the fill valve fairly inexpensively with a new one at any home improvement store

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The two bolts that holds the toilet bowl down. one on each side. the whole things turn ad i cannot take it off


a lots of the time when that happens you will need to use a grinder or a ' Dremil ' tool to cut the bolts that are holding down the toilet and get some new bolts and re-install. **** there is also a chance that if you CAN turn the bolt itself from the top that you can get the bottom of the bolt ( which is ' T ' shaped ) to turn in the right direction and get the bolt head to slip through the slots in the floor plate. since you will most likely need new bolts to re-install the toilet, go buy the new bolts at the hardware store and by looking at the bolts and looking at a floor plate at the store -- this will give you a idea of what you are trying to remove.. ( it is kinda like a puzzle ). ******
also --- sometimes you can get a hacksaw blade ( by itself -- not on handle ) to fit between the floor and toilet and cut the bolts that way,, this is kinda a pain to do, but in a pinch it sometimes works good.
I hope these ideas help you --- good luck ( ! ).

c...

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I'm trying to install my Neptune Catania toilet and my flange is on the surface of my floor. Problem is the toilet doesn't sit all the way down on the floor, about 1/8 to 3/16" away. Second problem the...


If the toilet does not sit fully on the floor then it will need to be shimmed. Use plastic, fiberglass or composite shims to level the toilet. Wood shims will rot. Caulk around the front and sides of the toilet to hide the shims. Do not caulk around the back as if the toilet leaks you will not be able to tell if it is fully caulked. Epoxying the flange will work however you will want to check with local building codes to ensure this is compliant.

Jul 15, 2010 | Neptune FB1635 Catania Toilet

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In pressure Lite flushing system, do we need any pressure?


We just recently installed two of these and love them.

LESSONS LEARNED:

This is a almost complete in box and needs to only install the tank and seat. It also came with a new wax ring and bolts.

What you also need is also at home depot they have the better flange repair kit, this is a round metal ring that goes over the existing plastic flange on the floor, put in as many screws as you can. On both we broke the plastic flange while installing the bolts. also the second one we also added a washer on the back side of the metal flange repair ring this made the connection even stronger.

The new bolts that hold the toilet to the floor will be to long and an need to be cut off. Don't just try to brake it off, we ran in to big trouble and is how we broke the flange.

Lastly go ahead and use Tub sealant and put a bead around the floor and base of toilet, this will keep it more secure and not allow any fluids to seep under the toilet and start smelling.


Hope this tip helps.

R/
David

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Kohller Rialto toilet, can not get toilet to seat properly, leaks from bottom. Tried 3 different wax seals and it still leaks. Toilet was purchased online from Home Depot, and cannot return to store. Same...


If you tried regular sized wax rings and they failed to seal, try using a double thickness wax ring, maybe the space between the floor flange and the toilet exceeds a regular wax ring size. If the floor has been re-tiled and the floor flange was not adjusted this could be your problem, anyhow good luck!

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Hacked off the old seat? You mean the closet flange that connects to the sewer pipe?
That's the part that has the bolts. They go up through the toilet base.

If you have just a straight sewer pipe now, you can connect a new closet flange to it.

1.Hardware stores sell a rubber sleeve. This sleeve fits over the cast iron, or copper, or plastic PVC pipe, and the new closet flange has a stem that fits down in the sleeve. There are two large hose clamps, that come with this rubber sleeve.

The rubber sleeve is an adapter. It adapts the 4 inch sewer pipe, down to the 3 inch stem on the closet flange. (Toilets are known as a 'Water Closet', hence the flange that the toilet bolts to, is a 'Closet Flange')

Whatever size of rubber sleeve you need to adapt two pipes together, they have it.
The new closet flange is made of PVC plastic.
(Poly Vinyl Chloride)
The flange itself is about 1/2 inch thick, and has provisions for bolts. (Use Toilet Bolts, and nuts)
Be sure the closet flange sits flush to the floor. The 1/2 inch thick rim of the flange, sits on top of the floor. The flange is then screwed to the floor with countersink head screws. The slots allow the bolts to just slip in.

IF, the flange Does Not sit level on the floor, and the area for the toilet base is not level, you need to make a flat, level surface!
Do Not half step this, or you'll have a toilet leak from now until the time you fix the floor!

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How to Install Toilet


It's not terribly complicated, assuming that by "install a new toilet" you mean where there was alredy an existing toilet. First, remove the old toilet. Shut off the water supply valve, and flush the toilet. Then use a spone to get rid of the water that remains in the tank. Remove the nuts on the two bolts at the base of the toilet where the toilet meets the floor. These are usually hidden under two plastic caps. Now gently rock the toilet until it comes away from the floor. Get help to carry it out. Clean up the old wax that's around the flange where the pipe disappears into the floor. Don't be a wuss, it's only wax. Now you'll need the new toilet, a new supply line, new mounting bolts (don't reuse the old ones) and a two wax rings. Yes, I said two wax rings. You'll see why in a minute. Assemble the new toilet according to the instructions provided. Now here's a warning: Do NOT overtighten the bolts the hod the tank to the bowl. You're dealing with ceramics here, don't break them. Now, put the new hold-down bolts in place on the flange. Read the insturctions that came with the toilet, but you have to do this NOW. Now you'll need a helper. With the toilet upsided down, unwrap a wax ring. Make sure it's room temprature or it won't seal. Press the wax ring around the outlet flange on the base of the toilet. Now you and your helper carefully turn the toilet over without crushing the wax ring. Lift the toilet and slowly lowe it so the wax ring is centered over the "flange" which is where the sewer pipe goes into the foor. Then press the toilet firmly in place. Now if you're like most people, you screwed up here and crushed the wax ring without being centered on the flange. That's why I told you to buy two. Now you know what not to do, scrape off the first one and start again. When you've got the toilet sealed on the flange, connect and tighten the nuts on the bolts. Now you may have to use a hacksaw to cut off the remaining ends of the bolts so you can get the neat little plastic caps to fit. Now connect the water supply line. Now's where you start praying. Turn on the water and let the tank fill. Check the supply line for leaks. Fix as necessary. Now flush. Is water running out from around the base of the toilet? No? Good, you got a good seal. Yes? Very bad. Time to go back to the home center for yet another wax ring. Repeat the sealing process and get a good seal this time.

Aug 27, 2008 | Kohler Santa Rosa K-3323-0 White Compact...

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