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Computer won't boot when sv8004h is connected on as a secondary drive on the primary ide cable

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On the primary IDE cable, check that one device is jumpered as MA(ster) and one device is jumpered as SL(ave). Or, jumper both devices as C(able)S(elect).

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Check the jumpers (Little connector which connects two pins together) at the back of the drive, your second drive should have the jumper set to slave.

Posted on Nov 06, 2010

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I LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO KNOW WHETHER THE PRODUCT IS STILL FUNCTIONING OR NOT? PLEASE ADVISE. SHOW ME HOW TO DO THE CONNECTION OF THE IDE CABLE TO THE HARD DISC AND THE POWER CABLE? HOPEFULLY THESE ARE NOT...


No product support question is stupid, Peter.

1) An IDE cable should be plugged in with the Number 1 socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, going on the Number 1 pin on the harddrive.

Number 1 pin on an IDE optical drive, or harddrive, is next to the 4-pin power connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hard_drive-en.svg

Illustration which shows the back of an IDE (PATA) harddrive.

See the area marked as IDE Connector?
Two rows of pins.

Next over are the Jumper pins in the Jumper Block.

Finally, next to the Jumper Block is the 4-pin power connection.


To make sure the IDE flat ribbon cable, is inserted into the harddrive in the correct position, a Locating Lug is usually on the IDE flat ribbon cable's connector.

A small rectangle, or two bumps side by side, on the top edge of the connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_Plug.svg

This Locating Lug lines up with a cutout, in the circuit board of the harddrive.
A Locating Notch.

Sometimes there isn't a Locating Lug.
In this case look at the side edge of the IDE cable for the faint Red stripe.
This red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 pin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

So when you go to plug the IDE cable in, make sure the Red stripe is facing the 4-pin power connection.

Goes for an optical drive (CD/DVD drive), or a Harddrive.



(On the motherboard there are usually two IDE headers. {Connectors}

One for the Primary IDE device, a Harddrive, and one for the Secondary IDE device.
Usually an optical drive.

Next to the Primary IDE connector on the motherboard may be PRI, or Pri, or Primary, or IDE 1.
{ In TINY letter/numbers }

Next to the Secondary IDE connector on the motherboard, may be SEC, or Sec, or Secondary, or IDE 2.

Sometimes only the Secondary connector is marked. This tells you the other connector is the Primary connector.

Number 1 pin is towards the marking. Primary, or Secondary.
The Red stripe goes towards the marking on the motherboard )

Also;
There are two rows of pins on the back of the Harddrive for the IDE cable.
With a cursory glance it may look as though there are two rows of 20 pins.
There is not.

One pin has been removed. One row only has 19 pins.
Generally, but NOT always, the matching socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, is blocked off with a plug.

An IDE cable only uses 39 socket holes even if there are 40 shown.

Also; NOT a good idea to put a Harddrive, and an Optical Drive, on the same IDE cable.

BIOS looks to see which drive has the Master Boot Record.
Windows master boot record.
This is on the Harddrive.

BIOS will look at both, the Harddrive, and the Optical Drive.
This slows the computer down, for one.
For two, BIOS may not find which drive has the master boot record, with both drives on the same IDE flat ribbon cable.

Harddrive goes to the Primary IDE cable.
Optical drive/s go to the Secondary IDE cable.



2) As for the power cable it is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable.
Often misnomered as a 'Molex' cable.

[Molex was the model name given by the first company to produce this connector.
It stuck.
Kind of like referring to an open-end wrench as a Crescent wrench ]

It is also a STANDARD 4-pin Peripheral power cable, because there two 4-pin Peripheral power cables.

4-pin Standard Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Note in the center photo the shape of the connector.
The top two corners are rounded.
Only plugs in, in one direction.

{The Yellow wire is a 12 Volt wire.
Red = 5 Volts
Black wires are Ground wires }

4-pin Small Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#floppy

Older computers used this power cable for a Floppy Drive.
Newer computers use it for a Card Reader.


For additional questions please post in a Comment.

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joecoolvette

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Cloned hard drive "C" (WD 40GB) to A Deskstar 8oGB using external enclosure. When I remove the old drive and install new drive and boot up I get Msg drive 0 not found retry or enter setup. If I enter setup...


there are few thing you ahve to keep in mind

there are two type of hard disk
1. IDE
2. SATA

As per your hdd capacity it should of IDE type.

Now there are two IDE slots on motherboard. One is Primary and other is Secondary

You can fix two hdd with one IDE Slot that mean you can fix up upto faour IDE hdd at a time

Now again there are Primary master and Primary Slave

and

Secondary Master and Secondary Slave

Now You have to examine what was the location of previous hdd
1 Primary Master
2 Primary Slave
3 Secondary Master
4 Secondary Slave.

Now you have to make a HDD master or Slave.

just in between data cable connector and power cable connector there is a jumper. that specify the master or slave. do reply me if it works well thanks

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Cant detect my western digital hard drive help! philippnes!


Shut down the computer.Disconnect the ide cable from hdd .Just connect using primary hdd and boot the computer. Shut down the computer. Connect the secondary hdd both IDE and power cable. Restart the system and go to bios . Check if the both hdd are detected in bios. If detected boot to desktop. If not detected reset bios settings to default.Restart computer and check. IF still not detected shutdown computer.Disconnected secondary hdd and primary hdd,connected secondary hdd to primary ide connecter and check in bios. If still not detected try connecting secondard hdd on different computer and check.

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Ok.... The Primary IDE Should be configured so that your Primary Hard Drive is Set To Master (the jumper pins must be set to the same, each drive has a guide on top or back, or it's written above or below the jumper pins on the back of the drive.

Primary = Hard Disk 0 (Your Main Hard Drive)...This one is to be set as Master and plugged to the END of the IDE Cable....Another Hard Disk / Drive can be connected as Slave (sometimes Cable Select Will Work depending on the motherboard). Remember The Jumper pins on the Drives!

Secondary= One drive must be set as Master, The other as Slave.

That Should do it.

Go into your bios setup screen, go to the boot configuration and set it up so that your boot order goes as follows:
1. Floppy Disc Drive
or........
1. Optical Drive (cd or dvd)
2. Hard Disc 0 (this will be named whatever your Hard drive model number is)
3. Hard Disc 1 (this is the second hard drive, if you want it to be bootable, it's your choice, if not, then set it up to boot off your secondary optical drive,

Make Sure that under IDE devices menu, everything is detected correctly.
Now Save Settings and Exit.

That should do it

Apr 21, 2009 | Computers & Internet

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Ide channels not working right after updating dvdrw firmware Set on ide channels should be Primary ide Hard drive primary master. Primary secondary hard drive. Secondary master dvd (read only) Secondary...


Hi,
usually when you update or re-flash the dvd rom.
it will state :- ensure that the drive to be flashed should be jumper set as master. if there were other drives connected to the same ide channel. this could have caused damage to the other drives connected. Or the IDE Channels themselves.
The only suggestion I have for you. is to remove all the drives. disconnect the power from the computer. and remove the cmos battery, for 10-15 seconds. resetting the computers bios back to defaults. then re-settup the drives ensuring that the jumpers are correct for each drive. i.e 1 slave and 1 master on each ide cable.
Mike @ Compurepair.

Mar 26, 2009 | ASUS A7V8X Motherboard

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Hi emceedrive, I gather you are using ATA/PATA IDE hard disk drives? Each hard disk drive has a large white sticker on it. Listed there are pin settings to set the IDE to Master or slave & Master with a slave. (We want to leave you're drive with windows on it alone). Not changing its jumper or not adding a jumper for now. We are not hooking up you're second drive just yet either.
Oh, please you're not an idiot either.
Unplug the power cable from the PC & open you're case.
Please open you're ASUS P4P800 SE manual to section 2.2.3 Motherboard layout. We want to connect the data cable to SEC_IDE1 first because once PRI_IDE1 is connected you will not be able to connect SEC_IDE1's data cable up to the DVD drive bay.
So grab a data cable for you DVD drive. It may have three connectors on it. Plug the connector that is the furthest from the other 2 connectors on the cable into the motherboard slot named SEC_IDE2. The data cable only goes in one way. Run the remainder of the cable up to the DVD player but do not connect it to the player yet. It is ok to fold the data cable which will help in routing it upwards to the DVD bay. Than connect the data cable to you're primary master IDE drive. (The one with windows already installed on it). The data cable should look just like the DVD data cable. Again you want to connect the furthest connector on the data cable into the MB slot named PRI_IDE1.
For now it’s best not to install the drive into the drive bay. Stand it up next to your case or lay it down flat with a sheet of paper under it. Connect the power cable to the drive. Plug in the PC's power cord & power up the PC & start pressing the delete key every two seconds until the bios main menu loads. You should see the Primary Hard disk drive listed at the main menu. Now go to the title Boot in the bios. Open boot order. The boot order of the devices should be as follows.
Boot device 1. (Floppy Disk Drive)
Boot device 2. (DVD Disk Drive) [None shown it’s not connected to the system].
Boot device 3. (Model number of your Primary IDE Master HDD).
Once this is set, save the bios & exit. The system should auto restart & windows should load. Let windows finish loading. Than shut down windows normally.
Unplug the PC's power cord. Since you had to remove a DVD drive you'll need to set the remaining DVD player's jumper on the drive to a Master & connect the data cable & power cord to it. (You may have to remove the DVD to see where the Master pins are located. It will be marked on the DVD player near the pins).
Now take you're new drive, do not insert it into the drive bay. Look at you're Master drive's white label. Set the jumper on the master drive first. It should be set as a Master drive with a slave.
Connect a jumper for this.
Go to you're new drive. Again look at its white label. Set this drive's jumper as a Slave drive. The Master drive should be connected to the end of the data cable. The new slave drive should be connected to the next in line connector.
Once all data cables & power cables are connected plug in the PC's power cord & boot the system, again pressing the delete key every two seconds until the boot main menu loads. Now you should see the Primary IDE Master drive & you're new Primary IDE Slave drive listed. You should also see the DVD as the Secondary IDE Master. Go to the title "Boot" again. Set the boot order as mentioned above. Save & exit the bios. Windows should load as it did before. Once windows has finished loading open windows Explorer & see if you're new slave drive is listed.
Shut down the system & unplug the power cord. Unplug the slave drive & mount it into its drive bay. Take a black marker & mark the side of the drive as slave. Disconnect the Master drive & connect it into its drive bay. Reconnect the data cables & power cables. Check all connectors before closing the case up. Re-connect the PC's power cord & boot the system. Everything should be fine. If you have a problem getting the data cable connected to the slave drive because its closer to the DVD drive as opposed to the Primary IDE Master drive you can make the slave drive a Secondary IDE Master (Change its jumper setting according to the drive’s label for Master with a slave) & connect the DVD player as a Secondary IDE Slave. (Change its jumper to slave). Change the Primary IDE Master drive’s jumper as a Master with no slave, single drive. That all.

Good luck emceedrive!
Take your time. Any troubles please post here.
You should be fine though.
Mike

Aug 11, 2008 | ASUS P4P800 SE (890552603657) Motherboard

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I need Help


Hi Banyar, lets check the main menu & the boot order in you're bios. Start up the PC, as soon as you see any display on the monitor press the delete key every 2 seconds until the bios main menu loads. This is also where you can see the time & date. List on the left is;
Primary IDE Master
Primary IDE Slave
Secondary IDE Master
Secondary IDE Slave

Across from these on the right is the matching device. If you have one hard drive the bios will show its model number on the right.
Ex: ST150322A. (You're drive will be different). If you have more than one hard drive the second drive, (Should be listed as Primary IDE Slave). CD-ROM drives would be listed as, Secondary IDE Master & Secondary IDE Slave. Write down the model name of the Primary IDE Master on paper. Now go to the title, "Boot" in the bios. Use you're manual & go to page 2-25. High-light, Boot Device Priority & press enter. Set the order as shown in the manual. Make sure the 3rd boot device is set to the correct hard drive listed from the main menu. The model you wrote down. Once set save & exit the bios. The PC will restart. You should no longer receive the error message & windows should boot normally. If windows does not load normally than it is possible that the Primary IDE master drive is not the drive with windows installed on it. You must find the correct drive with windows loaded on it. Connect that drive to the Primary IDE master port.
You may need to reset the drive’s pin settings so it is seen as the primary drive.
Than change the 3rd device in the bios boot priority list with the correct drive. Windows demands that the operating system be located on the, Primary IDE master port. Please read pages 2-12 & the top of 2-13 in you're manual.

More questions? Post them here.
Good Luck!
Mike

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Setting up a Computer to install Windows XP Professional.


Pedro -

I'll assume each of these is an IDE device, meaning each has a wide connector versus a narrow SATA connector commonly found on newer hard drives.

Your motherboard should have two IDE channels, labeled IDE 1 and IDE 2, Primary IDE and Secondary IDE, or something similar. Each IDE channel can support two devices.

For best performance between the drives, you will want to have the Hard Drive connected as Master(Drive 0) on the Primary IDE channel; The CDROM should be connected as Slave(Drive 1) on the Primary IDE channel. Connect the DVDROM as Master(Drive 0) on the Secondary IDE channel, and the ZIP Drive as Slave on the Secondary IDE channel.

When connecting the drives, make sure you set the jumpers correctly; Both the Hard Drive and the DVDROM should have their jumpers set to Master, the CDROM and Zip drives should have their jumpers set to Slave. An alternative is to set the jumpers for every drive to Cable Select(CS), allowing the physical connection of each drive to determine whether its a Master or Slave device.

*Note*
If your Hard Drive is a SATA device, connect it to the '0' or '1' SATA connector on the motherboard. Have the DVDROM set up by itsself as Master on the primary IDE channel, the CDROM as Master on the Secondary IDE channel, and the ZIP as Slave on the Secondary IDE channel.

Hope this helps!
-thinstatic

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on the IDE Port, set the jumpers to the hard drives/cdrom on CS(Cable Select) this lets the BIOS and the ribbon cable decide which is primary (Master) and which is secondary (Slave) on that IDE cable. if they were configured wrong you would get an error.

If the IDE channel is no good, try switching the primary and secondary IDE ribbon cables.

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If the drive is set as Cable Select you are allowing the motherboard to detect where it is on the ribbon cable. If the drive is shown as Primary slave then the drive is on the wrong connector on the ribbon cable. If it is shown as secondary master than the IDE cables on the board need to be switched (primary to secondary, secondary to primary)

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