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Gearbox We took apart the gearbox assembly, repalced the clutch. We don't know if the washer goes on first or the clip. Can you help?

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Assemble as follows:

Clutch assembly on top of gear box, followed by the retainer clip and then the washer. For future reference, searspartsdirect.com has helpful illustrations to assist you in component identification and assembly. Just type in your model number and follow the links on the next page. I hope this helps you.

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Grinding gears when in spin mode When the washer went into rinse mode a loud sound from the gearbox happened. It sounds like the gears are grinding together and not syncing together. took out the clothes...


This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.

First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

Enter your model number (###.#######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

Also see the following:

WHIRLPOOL PARTS SITE

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf


WHIRLPOOL INST AND MAINTENANCE INCLUDING HOW TRANSMISSION WORKS

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf


MORE DETAILED WHIRLPOOL TRANSMISSION DESCRIPTION AND SPRINGS

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/2550f737b3129b0c85256b0600504738/$FILE/787772%20%234.pdf

It sounds as if the problem is in the transmission itself.

(It's not as bad as it sounds.)

If you're reasonably comfortable with basic tools (socket set, pliers/vice grips etc) getting to the transmission and taking it apart isn't too difficult and much less expensive than having a repair person charge $170 for a new transmission.

In any case, see the following for how to remove the transmission. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE THE TUB.


http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137&osCsid=f4b39cb9484cdf1ec5d8d486fe9692d9

The first possibility is the Agitate Cams in the transmission. (Whirlpool part # 62580 / 81) (about $12)

These are two plastic pieces that lift the agitator shaft when the washer goes into spin mode.

If they are worn they may not lift the shaft high enough to keep it out of the way when the washer goes into spin mode. See the above on how the transmission works.

Pull the transmission.

Remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace).

Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (16 oz.) of 80-90 weight gear oil (available at most auto parts stores).

Remove the transmission cover 8 bolts.

Pull off the spin pinion.

Push down on the agitate spring and remove the spring clip. Note where is attaches to the main shaft.

The two plastic agitate cam parts pull right off. Don't lose the washer on top of the cams. EVEN IF THEY DON'T APPEAR BROKEN THEY MAY BE WORN ENOUGH TO CAUSE THE PROBLEM.

Replace the cams, washer, spring and clip, pinion, oil (assuming you drained the oil first), cover and clutch parts.

Line up the transmission so that the release cam on the brake drum will snap onto the clutch spring retaining clip and put all parts back in the washer.

The basic tools are screwdriver, small socket set with up to a 1/2" socket, vice grips or good pliers (to remove and replace clips)

While you have the transmission apart, I'd check the other cams and gears inside. There aren't that many.

As an aside, replacing the agitate cams, neutral drain assembly and oil on ours (we had basically the same problem) cost less than $30 vs $170.


Mar 28, 2010 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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GE PROFILE CLUTCH CLIP PLACEMENT


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to install the clutch clip, A.K.A. Clutch assembly and retaining clip...

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you have to...check this image and look for the probable screws for you to open and install the clutch clip.

be very careful and always remember what your doing...

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for a larger diagram go to this link


hope this helps!

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Apr 02, 2008 | GE WBSR3140DW Top Load Washer

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Model 2485-2300 Top Load Washer I have to


First, see the Sears Parts site for washer model 110.24852300 which I assume is your washer.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?pop=true&modelNumber=110.24852300

Whirlpool / Kenmore top load direct drive washers use a clutch to start the Spin Tube which turns the tub.

They also use a Neutral Drain Assembly in the transmission which allows the washer to drain most of the water out before starting the spin.

Two possibilities:

First, See the following for how to remove the cabinet, pump, motor and transmission in order to check the clutch.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?pop=true&modelNumber=110.24852300

You don't have to remove the drum.

Check the clutch for wear as well as the springs. If the clutch is worn or the springs are broken, Sears has a "rebuild kit" for the clutch.

If the clutch is OK, the problem points to the Neutral Drain Assembly in the transmission.

This is a Whirlpool PDF on how these washers operate. It has a detailed section on how the transmission works.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

It also has a troubleshooting guide.

Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode.

Manually turning the drum apparentlthrows the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.

Ours had the same problem, no spin unless the lid was raised and lowered or we shut off and re-started the cycle.

After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt (a 1/2" socket extension works well).

You don't have to remove the drum.


http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside.

Remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

Pull the transmission, remove the clutch (there is a spring clip that holds the clutch on the main agitator shaft), remove the 8 screws carefully the transmission holds 14 - 15Oz of oil, remove the clip holding the main spin gear on and check the plastic cams.

If the cam that should have a spring doesn't, or the others look damaged, or the main spin gear is damaged the washer won't go into spin mode.

If that's the problem, install a Neutral drain kit, put everything back together carefully and the problem may be solved.

As an aside, fixing ours cost less than $30 including 80-90 weight gear oil vs. $170 for a new transmission.

Nov 29, 2009 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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Kenmore series 80 won't spin


The following has some assumptions.

1. The timer goes through it's complete cycle.

2. If you lift and lower the lid, does the washer go into spin.

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If you lift the lid, put it down again and the washer begins to spin, the problem is likely in the transmission "Neutral Drain Assembly".

Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode. Apparently, by opening and closing the lid, torque from the motor starting throws the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.
After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt. You don't have to remove the drum.

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside, remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

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remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.

Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (16 oz.) of 80-90 weight oil.

Remove the transmission cover.

Pull off the spin pinion.

Carefully remove the clip from the main drive gear (metal with white gears.

Under it are a number of cams (the instructions with the kit show where each one goes.

Carefully put everything back together and hopefully your problem is solved.

Sep 19, 2009 | Kenmore 24032\24036 Top Load Washer

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Whirlpool Clutch Problem


H i there.........it sounds as if your incorrectly assembling the clutch ....there is a diagram with the new clutch....no its part of the assembly

regards Sir Galahad

Aug 20, 2009 | Whirlpool Ultimate Care II LSQ9564J Top...

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Tub barely spins


Yes Friend, You need to just replace the clutch assymbly. It looks like you know the mechanics of your machine well. I've included the complete instructions below to help others that may have the same problem. It's easy to replace the clutch assymbly on your machine. First, pop the cover off the top of your agitator and remove the bolt that holds it in place. Gently pull the agitator up and out of the machine. Now, remove the two screws that hold control panel in place and tilt back exposing the two metal clips that hold the cabinet in place. You will see some wires plugged into the cabinet, just unplug them. There are two clips, one on each side. Just pop these clips off and lift cabinet slightly from back and tilt forward. At this point you will be able to completely remove the cabinet. Once you have cabinet removed just set it aside. Now, just lay the washer on it's back. At this point you will see the water pump, motor, and transmission. Remove the pump by snapping off the two spring clips. The pump will slide right off the motor shaft. Now, remove the two screws that hold the two spring clips attached to motor. Unplug all the wires etc. and then snap the metal clips off motor. Lift motor straight up, it should slide right off. Now you will see three bolts holding the transmission in place, just remove these three bolts. Now, gently pull the transmission out of the washer and sit it in an upright possition. At this point you will see the clutch assymbly on the top of the transmission with the agitator shaft going through it. There is a spring clip holding the clutch in place be sure to wear eye protection. Just pop this spring out and remove the entire clutch and replace with new clutch assymbly. Re-assymble the washer and the problem you are encountering should be solved. Happy to help, Tim.

Jun 11, 2009 | Kenmore 3.2 cu. ft. Plus Top Load Washer

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Bad sound when the washer goes into it's spin cycle


Your drum spider bracket broke. You will need to replace the complete drum assembly. The drum assembly will cost about $325 just for the part. If you can replace it on you own it will save you alot of money. To repalce the drum assembly you will need to completely disassemble the machine. If this is the route you want to go. I can walk you thru the process. Just let me know. Jeff

Jun 01, 2009 | Frigidaire ATF6000ES Front Load Washer

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I am trying to replace a clutch assembly


agitator needs to be disconnected, then tilt machine back disconnect pump and move out of the way. take 3 bolts holding the gearcase out an remove gearcase. Motor does not need to be removed unless you are going to replace the coupler. At the top of the gearcase there are 2 clips that need to be removed and wala, the clutch is easily taken off. reverse procedure, and reinstall gearcase. Be sure to rotate the brake and push up into the bell housing. if the brake comes down at all the gearcase won't reset into place. Good luck. There are detailed pics of this operation on the samurai appliance guru web site.

Jan 03, 2009 | Kenmore 24032\24036 Top Load Washer

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Whirlpool toploader gearbox/clutch removal


Last Night I took the machine apart to find clutch/brake assy ok gearbox was also ok then I noticed shaft coupling was different than new part I had in stock, new part made totally of nylon, old part fitted to machine has steel insert built into nylon. this was not fully located onto motor shaft and the first 1/4" of motor shaft had been stripped back to round ( no flat faces) also inside the steel lined bore of the nylon coupling had been worn to round.I replaced with new coupling of nylon and ensured both nylon parts fully pushed home onto motor shaft and gearbox shaft with any freeplay / gap being allowed in the rubber drive link. This has worked for now but expect trouble in future with worn motor shaft.

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