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Top tread bird nesting.

I own a Janome 300 Embroidery machine and used it for almost 5 years, two months ago, the top tread started bird nesting, so I took my machine in to the same store I purchased it from for repair. I had my machine back for two months and the same thing happed again, so back in it went. Now the same thing append again. It's getting to expensive for me to keep taking it back in to get the top tension fixed. I am using the correct backing for the different types of material I use. I have to drive a long distance to get my machine fixed and with what gas prices are today I just can not afford to keep taking in my machine.
Please I need help. Can you tell me how to do it myself.

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  • Coribug Jun 11, 2008

    When the design is sewing on the garment, the top thread is loopy and bulky, also there is no bobbin showing on the back of the garment, just the top thread. The bobbin is not loose, no lint has accumulated under the bobbin case I checked. Hope you can help.

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When you say top thread nesting, I supose you mean that the thread is messed up at the top of the needle plate.
If so,
1st, either your bobbin thread is completely loose, or the bobbin thread is not held under the bobbin case spring,
or lint has been accumulated under the bobbin case spring.
2nd, the top thread is very tight,

or both.

Posted on Jun 11, 2008

  • Antonis Lasettas
    Antonis Lasettas Jun 11, 2008

    Use a different color of thread for bobbin, and tell me the result, please.

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