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Too much water in drain pan

My drain pan is full after 5 cups of coffee. Changed small gaskets and large one in brew group, now help.

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  • stev zae Jul 02, 2008

    Thx for the input. This is from Saeco.... You may have a clog in the boiler valve behind the
    brew group. Clean that out and you should be good to go


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The leak could be from the boiler valve housing- there are o-rings there as well and/or other components.

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