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My Rancilio Silvia brews fine but does not produce enough steam to froth even one cup milk after oulling a shot. Starts off with steam from wand but then what appears to be hot air only comes out of wand and doesn't froth milk. If I re-prime the reservoir things seem to improve and I can froth the next cup. The problem seems more noticeable if I let the machine warm up for 10-20 minutes before brewing. I run about 2 cups of water through the brew group before pulling the first shot every day. The machine hasn't been used that much and has never overheated as far as I know. Also (if this helps) the brewhead will spit out steam and water rather than just water between successive shots of espresso (no frothing in between) if I let the machine warm up for 10 minutes or so and fully prime the group. Thoughts?

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Hi C Forest,
Try descaling 1st, that should clear any lime build up in the boiler and solenoid. JURA descaling tablets . Inexpensive descaler tablets - just rinse with water when done. No need for smelly vinegar and is more effective!
There needs to be water in the boiler in order for steam, so you should 'prime the boiler' - run a little water 1st from the group. That way you should have loads of steam.

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I had a similar issue on my Breville. I found that running vinegar through the machine several times (including the steam wand but remove the end o the wand first) dissolves any buildup on the inside of the machine. Of course you will need to run water through after until the smell/taste is gone before you can use it again.

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The machine need for descaling

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SOURCE: spout for frothing milk pops out

You can get the user manual on this link if you need it; http://www.gaggiaparos.co.uk/ Check page 6 of the download, page 12 of the manual - the spout should just pull off and push back on. If it wont, then either something needs cleaning more, something is stuck in the tube or more likely the part of the nozzle that comes off, something is broken, or you need to use a little bit more force. If it appears broken, (check in particular for a fine crack that is only visible when the nozzle is stretched i.e. when in place. This type of plastic often will close a crack enough to be near invisible when not under tension.) then you could try gluing it although i doubt if this would work. You could just put a stainless steel hose clamp around it, tighten up just enough to make the nozzle spout stay on (bit of a pain, but may work). You can contact gaggia for a replacement - in the USA; Importika 596 Fishers Station Dr. 14564, Victor, NY Mr. Salzman Ph. 585.742.5178 Fax 585.924.1499 web site: www.importika.com e-mail: [email protected] Hope this helps - if you can post back a photo or two close up of the problem area, i may have more ideas :)

Posted on Jul 05, 2007

SOURCE: saeco milk island - no froth

I agree with the poster that the key item is the little black plug (referred to as the valve in the supporting documentation). My milk island frothed beautifully for 2 months before gradually decreasing until I was getting just hot flat milk every time.

The valve has a dark grey pointed rubber plug which is possible to pull out and clean, and is fitted back in the hole by poking it back in. But what I found made a huge difference were the two slots/holes in the top of the valve piece. In my case they were clogged up (invisibly) with dried milk. As soon as I used a needle to unclog and clean the holes under a running tap, it got back to frothing again.

Whenever I use the milk island, I make sure I rinse and clean all parts immediately after use, leave them to dry, and before putting together again give the two holes in the valve a brief hard blow to clear it of water. The whole cycle takes about 30 seconds at most.

Posted on Mar 13, 2008

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Hey Folks. My Silvia was doing something similar to this after no less than 2 weeks of operation.

Not being too worried about the warranty for just opening the case and looking inside......I did so. Be careful. Unplug as you remove various panels. Just don't touch anything with wires. You can see your problem if it is the same that I had.

Remove water res. Remove SS top. To view the pump, I had to remove the SS shield separating the reservoir from the boiler area. You will find the pump attached to the bottom of the chassis. It is supported by a rather flimsy rubber mount. Mine was collapsed to one side.......and the pump was literally banging against the chassis. Yes.....that will rattle your cups sitting atop the machine. To prove that your pump is not held securely in its mount, actuate the ON switch and observe the pump. Use only short burst of power when viewing your pump as you are NOT pushing water thru the assembly....and of course, all those electrical shock hazards that exist.

If it is shaking side to side......that is your problem.

I took a piece of hot water pipe insulation that I had out in the garage and cut it to the length from pump fitting to exterior wall of cabinet. IU think that might have been about 4.25 inches (I fixed this problem over two months ago and can't remember the actual length). The insulation piece is very light and holds the pump quite securely in place precluding the side to side vibration and the terrible noise. The split in the insulation allowed for the water line to be held securely as it comes out of the pump.

Reinstall all shielding parts, etc.......and you should be back on your way to minimal pump noise espresso shot pulling!!

All the best........Arch in Virginia Beach

Posted on Apr 13, 2008

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SOURCE: water will not come through the steam wand

I had the same problem. I took the steam wand off, and checked for steam out of the unit. It was OK, so I stuck a thin wire up through the steam wand and dislodged what look like pieces of a green washer or O-ring.
In short...the wand was plugged.

Posted on Feb 03, 2009

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SOURCE: Saeco Talea Ring Plus not frothing milk

per il milk island asciugare bene la valvolina e tutti i fori del blocco di plastica che fa da montalatte devono essere perfettamente asciutti dare dei colpetti alla valvola per fare uscire eventuale acqua all interno.

MORENO

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The "Dual Frother Plus" (top) works like the traditional frothing wand. The metal sleeve goes up for steam, down for foam.
The "Froth Xpress Plus" is a very handy device which can be used with the included sleek milk container or a distinct milk container, like a 1/2 gallon jug. The Froth Xpress has a tube (hard for using the included container, flexible for using a different container) that fits into the frothing tube behind the dial shown in the picture above. After selecting froth or steam, the milk is siphoned into a cup below the steam wand. We recommend steaming the milk first, then adding the espresso.

Whatever sort of wand you have, it is essential to keep it clear of solidified milk which can gum up the tip and even the wand shaft. Here are some symptoms of a clogged wand:
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  • Hot water drips from the tip of the wand
  • A squeal or whistle comes out of the wand when the steam function is selected
  • A deep humming is heard when the steam function is selected*
*This is also a symptom of another more serious problem, particularly if you have a pump espresso machine; so if unclogging the wand does not solve it, you should contact a technician.
A good preventative measure against the clogging of a steam wand is regular rinsing in warm, soapy water of the tip and any other removable frothing part. This should be done after each steam wand use. If your machine has a Froth Xpress, it is important to clean all of the hoses, valve, and connectors (be very careful with the plug, however, because it is delicate). All wands should also have steam jetted through them after a frothing cycle is run.
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you will need to get use to them and get maximum quality of that steam pipe.
my advice:
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  2. every time you use cold milk.

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For the coffee - make sure the machine has heated up for at least 10 minutes. I've found the grind is the most important in getting a good shot of espresso with a good crema.

It takes trying different grinds to find what works best. When we grind at the store we choose the second finest grind from the finest - we put it to Turkish and then turn it back one notch.

On the steaming side - it takes practice. Sometimes I get froth, sometimes - I usually let the wand go near the bottom of the steaming cup and heat the milk to 160 deg. f.

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If the milk scalds, you're getting it hot enough. It sounds like you're not incorporating enough air into the milk when frothing.
Make sure that the holes in the tip of the steam wand are clear. Soak in water for 5-10 min. and wipe with a cloth (no abrasives) and clear the holes with a paper clip end. Blow the wand out nice and hard.
How is your steam pressure? It should be about 1.2 bar.
It could also be your technique. The wand should never be more than 3 cm into the milk. For cappuccino froth, keep the tip right at the surface of the milk, lowering the pitcher as the level rises. You should hear a "shushing" sound, no squealing.

Good luck!

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