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Dishes are not being cleaned. Water temp is ok. Neither spray arm is rotating.

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  • kjdupuis Nov 14, 2010

    Well the dishwasher worked great for a month, but there seems to be a new problem. Again, it's not cleaning properly. The bottom arm is rotating, but the top one isn't. However, now the tub is not filling all the way. The water does not reach the heating element. The float seems to move freely and when I manually lift it I can here it "click" when it reaches proper water level.

    Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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Hi, I have an older dishwasher also and recently my wife alsocomplained about it not cleaning right... so me being the man I am tried invain to clean the things... Bought new spray arms online and installed them inminutes...now the thing works like new... However I have also found that if theheating element goes bad then that also can mess things up bad... So I wouldbuy new spray arms, and also check out the heating element to make sure it isworking... Here is a tip that will help you with the online buying...
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  • kjdupuis Oct 13, 2010

    here's an update on this problem: The bottom spray-arm IS spinning. The upper arm (under the top rack ) is not spinning, but it IS getting water, though it only dribbles out. There also is a small jet on the roof of the washer, over the top rack that is getting no water at all.

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    D. Floyd Kolb Oct 13, 2010

    I would next take apart the jet and the top sparay arm to determine if the water is just nor getting there with enough pressure or more then likely the jet and arm are plugged with dirt...
    I would probably first replace them and see what result you get before tearing into it any further...
    Just a very small amount of dirt in the spray arm can cause it to basically not owrk at all...

    heatman101

  • kjdupuis Oct 13, 2010

    I did take the arm apart earlier and it is clean. I'll try the jet next. Also, it seems that the water coming from the bottom arm has very little pressure, tho it's hard to tell when opening the door quickly.

    Could this be a pump that's failing?

    Thanks for you help.

  • D. Floyd Kolb
    D. Floyd Kolb Oct 13, 2010

    It is possible the the pump is failing, but I want to make sure that you don't spend th money for the pump and then find out that it was an inexpensive part...
    So all of the holes in the spray are were clean and there was nothing inside it???

  • kjdupuis Oct 13, 2010

    Yes, it was very clean. I couldn't see dirt, debris etc.

  • kjdupuis Oct 16, 2010

    I fixed it. Turns out the chopper assembly was completely plugged. I disassembled the Sump assembly and removed and cleaned the chopper. I then started the machine with the sump assembly removed and there seemed to be tons of pump pressure. I reassembled everything and started the machine again. Both spray arms and the top jet all rotated. I then loaded and ran it through a complete cycle. Everything was A-OK.

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