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Brand new Intermatic timer for pool, but it will not trip the pool ON...It does trip the pool OFF only??????

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So you can turn the pool timer off using manual override.

The center dial is also turning.

These 2 things mean the timer is working fine, but you forgot to put the OFF tripper pins on the dial.

Brand new Intermatic timer for pool, but it will - 5def96a.jpg Picture shows Off tripper coming in contact with lever that clicks lights on and off. The lever is connected the manual override. So if manual override is working, then the lever is working.

1ba8aca.jpgThe ON and Off trippers are different color

Posted on Oct 11, 2010

  • seamore8452 Oct 11, 2010

    I am using the "off" and the "on" trippers and I know which one is which...They are clearly marked. The manual over works just fine, but I need the timer to turn the pool off and on when I am not available to do it manually. The timer shuts the pool off, but is not turning it on unless I use the manual switch. So...back to square one........

  • seamore8452 Oct 12, 2010

    Hi Gino!

    You're a genius to give me the wiring tips! I have pinned my boyfriend to find answers by "nagging" and it seems he came up with the exact answer you gave as being the possible problem. (AFTER asking and pestering hin for six weeks!) See, sometimes it just pays to be a nag :) (Never thought I would be able to say such a thing...One never knows!) Thank you so much for your help. I have a day off tomorrow and I think I will fix the timer wiring as you have described and get the job done myself. That's one way to keep him on top of things from now on.

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