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I'm having a problem with loops in my thread on either the top or underside of the fabric, but mostly the underside. It doesn't appear to be the tension in the sense that the loops are loose thread. It looks like they didn't get a stitch from the opposite side to hold it. If I were knitting, I'd say I dropped a stitch, if that makes any sense. It's not the the tension as a matter of the loops holding the thread down being loose, or puckering. It's like it the stitch wasn't made at all and I just have loose bits of thread. I apologize for my description. I'm new at this and this is my first sewing machine! Cheers, Britta

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Posted on Jan 02, 2017

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Hello! Hello!

Your machine is probably not 50 years old. I have one just like it that we purchased about 5 years ago. Necchi makes a very sturdy reliable machine. There are a couple of tricks, though. First, your bobbin thread has to turn clockwise. If it doesn't, it will either not sew, the stitch will look horrible or the thread will break. Second, threading it is pretty easy; however, I can't explain some of the parts. I would be happy to scan the diagram and e-mail it to you. E-mail: daridoll@yahoo.com. The tension should be set at 3 unless you are doing a ruffle or close zigzagging (machine applique). For applique, I find that I have to move it to 2. For ruffles or gathering, set it at 0 and your stitch width to 4. Another trick is to hold the top thread for the first 2 stitches. This alleviates a bobbin catch at the beginning. Other things you will want to know are in regard to the two knobs. One is pretty simple. It has a line that gradually increases in a zigzag. This knob basically adjusts the width of the zig zag. Obviously, for straight stitching, you would make sure the straight line is towards the top. The other knob determines the type of stitch you want to do. The red stitch options on top of the machine can be done with #1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 at the top; however, I usually use #1. The blue stitches are really fun! Simply decide which stich you want and make sure the corresponding number on the dial is turned towards the top. Also, it is very important that you adjust the other knob to the largest zigzag possible AND change the stitch length to 4. Don't pull on the fabric from behind the machine as you are sewing, because the machine will go forward and backwards while making many of these stitches. The green A, B, C on the dial are used for the automatic buttonhole feature. In order to use this, make sure you have the button hole foot. It looks like a long rectangular piece of plastic with measurements on it and hollow in the center. Not sure if that description makes sense. Anyway, the first step is "C." Make sure you begin with the button hole pressure foot measuring "0". Also, change your zigzag width to the desired width AND change the stitch length to less than 1. (You will notice that this area has a green line on it.) Begin stitching. You should be moving forward. When you have reached the desired length, make sure the needle is up, then turn the knob to "B" (sometimes I make my zigzag wider for this part), begin sewing. You should not go forward or backward. This step makes the bottom of the button hole. I only make 3 or 4 "B" stitches. When done, make sure the needle is up, adjust your zigzag back again if you changed it for B, and set it on "A". This will take you backwards. If you started your button hole with the foot on 0, it will automatically stop moving backwards when you reach 0 again. At this point make sure your needle is up again, then set the knob on "B" once more. If you adjusted B before, do it again. There you are! You can use twin needles on this machine. It also works well with a walking foot for quilting. Oh! To wind your bobbin (starting from the thread spool) you need to slide the thread under the little metal knob sticking out on top of the metal "?" right above the tension and then insert it into the hole in the bobbin spool. Push the bobbin to the right. This locks it into place. Next, hold the outer part of the flywheel (round wheel on right side of machine) while turning the inner wheel towards you. This will disengage the needle and allow the bobbin to wind. Now you can press on the "gas" and wa-laah. It will slow down and almost stop when it is completed. Cut your thread, slide the bobbin to the left to unlock, tighten the wheel and you're done. If you have any more questions, let me know. Hope this helps!

Posted on Oct 18, 2008

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Try oiling the hook if you haven't recently.
Check you needle plate and hook for damage, they may need to be buffed or sanded smooth.
Check your upper tension discs for lint and double check your upper thread path (proper threading).
There are other things like hook timing, needle clearance or broken check spring that may be wrong but you need a technician for those things.
best of luck!

Posted on Jan 31, 2009

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SOURCE: looping stitches on underside of fabric

Check the bobbin to ensure it is installed correctly. Your bobbin is probably in incorrectly. You shouldn't have to change your tention yet but it is possible. this may sound stupid but the other culprit may be that your forgot to put the foot down. Hope this helps. Let us know. If you found that the tension adjustment did help call your local service center and ask for the in-house tech, ask them where the original # position is when it came from the manufacturer and re-adjust the top tention to that.

Posted on Apr 27, 2009

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SOURCE: singer 221-1 stitching is good on bottom but not on top

pucker is caused by too loose or, to tight adjustment of: the thread tensioners both the bobbin tensioner and, the needle tensioner need to be adjusted: to adjust the needle tensioner turn the side knob clockwise is tighter counterclockwise loosens; the bobbin tensioner is a tiny screw on the bobbin holder adjust both tensioners until your stich loops' both top and, bottom are tight but, the machine does not break the thread

Posted on Apr 29, 2009

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Loops on the bottom of the fabric direct the problem to the top thread. Rethread again and make sure the thread goes through the tension discs. Lift the foot, because this is what opens the discs. When sewing and the foot is down, the discs should be closed and thus giving the upper thread the tension it needs.

Posted on May 25, 2009

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Tension on sewing machine


Check your stitch sample. The looping under the fabric is most likely the top thread. If so, this is call bird nesting or thread nesting. Most common cause is the top thread is not completely seated in the tension disk.

Remove the top thread from the machine.
ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot and rethread the top thread.
Set the top tension at the midway point (this can be tweaked later).

Test your stitch. Increase or decrease the top tension until the top & bobbin threads meet in the middle of your fabric.

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Most of the time the bobbin stitch is correct. Occasionally there is a loop in the bobbin thread. Any suggestions as to what this could be?


Is it actually the bobbin thread that loops or is the loop appearing on the underside of the fabric as you stitch? If it is a loop under the fabric, that's usually an indication it is an upper thread issue. Thread irregularities that appear on the topside of the fabric are generally bobbin related.

First thing to try is installing a brand new needle. Verify it is the correct needle for the fabric and thread being used.
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Sometimes, the fabric being stitched will "grab" the thread and hold it for a second before releasing and will cause a loop. In this case, a needle with a larger scarf and eye may be helpful.

You might also open the upper tension as much as possible, RAISE the presser foot and run a piece of UNwaxed dental floss through the tension disk a few times to clear out any gunk that may be stuck there. A piece of pearl cotton dipped in rubbing alcohol and squeezed moist/dry will also work.

Remove the upper thread. RAISE the presser foot and rethread the top thread from the beginning. Use only fresh, good quality thread--NO old or bargain bin variety! Try using the same thread in the top and bobbin. Make sure the thread is firmly seated in the tension disk and the thread path is correct. Check that there are no burrs or snags in the thread path that could be catching the upper thread. Especially, check that the thread is not catching on the spool "slit" that holds the thread when in storage. Every time the thread navigates around the thread spool, it could be catching on that slit just enough to cause a loop.

Try changing the bobbin. There could be something amiss with the current bobbin--could be nicked or could even be the wrong bobbin for the machine. Also, make sure the bobbin is loaded and turning the correct direction in the machine.

Set the upper tension to the midway point. This is usually the starting point, although it will probably require some tweaking. Test your stitch and adjust the tension so the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. Neither thread should dominate one side of the fabric or the other.

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Last thing to try is a different presser foot.

If you still have the intermittent loop, you might want to take it for service. Could be a problem within the tension disk.

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Needle stitch fine. Bobbin stitch loops.


First, try a brand new needle.

Second, consider using a better quality thread. By all means, AVOID old or bargain bin threads. Coats & Clark used to be a standard, but thread quality has improved over the past few years, so you may want to check out other brands like Aurafil, Superior, Isacord, etc. Also, cotton wrapped polyester thread releases thread lint that contributes to build-up of gunk in the machine. Some sewists have noted that they experience more sewing issues when using C&C threads. However, some machines will do better with certain thread brands than others, so some experimentation may be beneficial.

Third, check the stitch on your sample again. Generally, when thread loops appear on the underside of the fabric, it is the upper thread that is the problem. If loopy threads appear on the top of the fabric, it is the bobbin thread that is the issue. You can even use a different color in the top to help distinguish which thread is the problem.

Fourth, when threading the upper thread, Always Raise the Presser Foot during the threading process so the tension disk is released and the thread can seat properly. "Bird nesting" occurs when the thread is not seated in the tension disk.
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Birds nest under the fabric big loops of thread top side looks good...

Fifth, when the upper thread appears on the underside of the fabric, the upper thread tension is too loose. If the bobbin thread appears on the top of the fabric, the tension thread is too tight (or the bobbin thread is loose). Start out with the upper tension set at the midway point and tweak it from that point. The tension is ideal when both upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

Also, remember that tension is not static--a tension setting for chiffon will most likely not work on cotton or denim. Get comfortable adjusting the tension to suit the project you are sewing.

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Why won't my Elna SU model 62c feed fabric through?


Firstly check that you have the top thread going through the tension device and threaded correctly, including the thread take up lever, loops on the underside is a sure sign that the top thread is not under tension. With the broken needles thrown in, it does sound like your machine needs some love from a trained Elna technician. Great machine so worth the cost of a service IMHO.

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Janome 5900 sewing backwards!


Most likely, the bobbin thread is not in the bobbin tension. Rethread the bobbin and try again.

Loops on top of the fabric almost always mean too little tension on the bobbin thread; loops on the underside almost always mean too little tension on the top thread. Just backwards of most people's first guess. See http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22521551

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Tension is loose underside


Loops appear on the surface (top side) of the fabric?
Reduce the tension by turning the upper tension control dial to a lower number. If the loops still appear on the surface of the fabric after you adjust the upper tension, the bobbin thread may be too loose. In this case, turn the screw clockwise, being careful not to over-tighten the screw, approximately 30-45 degrees to increase bobbin tension. After you adjust the bobbin thread, adjust the upper thread to match the bobbin thread.
Make sure you reset before your next project.

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New Home ss2015 machine. I am having trouble with the thread tension. I have loops on the bottom. I have cleaned the bobbin case, changed the needle, re-threaded and moved the upper tension all the way up....


try adjusting the top tension to 3 & if it doesn't stop the looping, try 4 but I wouldn't go any higher than 5,, if changing the top tension doesn't help then I suggest taking the machine in to have it serviced. the bottom tension is more difficult to do,, it's also very possible that the top tension dial is messed up & needs replacing. only a sewing machine shop can tell for sure.

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I have cleaned the machine. I have tried both solitions in my Jaome machine and still loops are forming on the botom. i have even moved the little screw on the bobbin- tested the thread and changed the...


If the loops are forming on the bottom it is the TOP thread tension you need to check. Make sure it isn't too loose. Also is the needle the right type and size for the fabric? Check the stitch out on plain cotton fabric if a tension adjustment doesn't fix it.

The TOP thread effects the UNDERSIDE of the stitch and the BOBBIN thread effects the TOPSIDE of the stitch :)

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I think the bobbin tension is off - I have large thread loops on the underside of the fabric when I sew


It sounds crazy but if you have loops on the underside of your fabric it means your upper thread is not properly threaded (and vice versa for loops on the top of your fabric). So re-thread your top thread, change to a new needle if you've been sewing with it for a months and you should be good to go. Let me know if you need any more help.

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Singer 301a...sews on top of fabric nicely...bottom is just loose loops of thread...it's like the bobbin is not sewing...I put 2 different colors in to see...top is perfect...on bottom of fabric I see the...


This is a tension adjustment problem. It's good to use two different colors of thread, like you did. From your description, the top thread (needle thread) tension needs to be tighter. As you tighten the tension of the top thread, you'll see that the top thread pulls the bobbin thread up into the fabric so it's no longer laying loose on the bottom of the fabric.

You'll need to have the pressure foot down when you tighten the tension. Tighten it a little, sew a practice seam, check to see what the stitch looks like. Tighten it a little more, sew, check, etc etc--until both top and bottom look the same--you shouldn't see much (if any) of the bobbin thread color on top of the fabric or the top thread color on the underside.

Let me know how this works for you, ok?


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