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Originally installed in 1978 as a heat pump. Threw away the outside unit. Want to use the electric inside furnace/air handler as a shop heating source. I don't know how to wire in the thermostat which is 7801 thermostat. There are 5 wires which are loose.

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Red is 24v from transformer to terminal R
Green is to Terminal G for the air handler fan motor
Yellow is to Terminal Y for calling cooling to the compressor and fan outdoor unit
White is to Terminal W for calling the heat trips which are usually sequenced to keep them from all coming on at once and over drawing Amps and kick off breakers.
Orange was for outdoor reversing valve for a heatpump system
Blue or Black is usually used for common or negative continuity in the circuit such as Red wire and Blue/Black wire to power a thermostat features on digital T-stats. If not digital T-stat then no common is needed to hook-up at T-stat

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The connections that you really need to reference would be at the air handler itself. That would tell you which wires go outside to the heat pump and which wires go to the air handler. I can however give you some basics that may help.

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R- Red- 24v power supply. (Usually a jumper between RC/RH)
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Y- Yellow- Cooling (Same applies as above i.e. Y1-Y2)
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Note: Considering that the installer had their own way to run all wires, use different wires, connections, etc. This is just a reference to common wiring in the field.

How the most common system is hooked up:
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Green wire goes to G terminal
White wire usually goes to W1 or W2 terminal
Orange or Black wire goes to B/O terminal
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Blue wire goes to C terminal, unless its being used as stated above.

This is without using a fossil fuel kit or zone control board.

Where do they go from the thermostat?
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goes to the air handler transformer or board and goes outside to heat pump to power low voltage controls.
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Green goes to the air handler fan relay.
Common goes to the air handler and outside to heat pump.
Black or Orange will go outside to heat pump terminals for reversing valve.
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Brown will go to the air handler to the heat relay for the emergency heat.

On a call for heat, with a powered cooling system (more common).
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