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Problem for Venta - Airwasher LW44 Air Purifier
Motor runs but wheels don't turn
I love this humidifier but at some point the wheels stopped turning, therefore no humidity. Can you help? Rosemary
Comments:
May 28, 2008
- The answer makes no sense to me. I can take the cover off and open it all up but that doesn't answer the question of why the wheels don't move. What should I be looking for.Fargosrp
Best Solution
posted on Jun 02, 2008
The manual available on this page is very helpful: http://www.venta-airwasher.com/html/technical_data.html
Here's what is says about the disc stack not turning:
Problem: Disk stack not turning
Check that the rubber coupling is properly inserted into the bottom of the gear.
It also indicates that there is a 10 year limited warranty, if your unit is younger than 10 years you should probably call Venta at 1-888-333-8218 to inquire about service.
Here is what the manual has to say (without the pictures):
Servicing your Venta-Airwasher
Cleaning the gear
Do not submerse the gear in water. To clean any buildup of calcium or lime from the
gear “teeth”, brush with a soft bristled brush. The gear teeth should be pointed
toward the floor while brushing, otherwise deposits will fall into the gear and cause it
to malfunction.
Removal of gear and coupling
1 Switch the unit off (to ZERO position).
2 Unplug the power cord from the A/C outlet.
3 Remove the motor housing from the upper housing.
4 Remove the coupling from the gear by pushing the coupling down toward the fan and
away from the gear.
5 Pivot (turn) the gear 90 degrees so it is laying on its side.
6 Gently pull one of the two motor housing arms approximately 1/8 of an inch away from
the gear and remove the gear from the motor housing.
7 Remove the locking ring from the center shaft of the fan by prying it up using a small
screwdriver.
14
4 5
6 7
Replacement of gear and coupling
1 Place the rubber coupling into the locking ring so the rubber feet from the coupling
hang below the ring. When placing the coupling and ring on the center shaft of the
fan the rubber feet should line up with the notch marks on the fan.
2 Snap the ring and coupling into place.
3 With the gear laying on its side place it between the motor housing arms that
suspend it above the fan.
4 While placing the palms of your hands against the motor housing arms, apply slight
pressure, and pivot the gear to the operating (upright) position. Check that the
locking knob (flange) is properly seated. The locking knob, on either side of the
gear, should fit tightly behind the ridge of the motor housing suspension arm.
5 Insert the rubber coupling into the bottom of the gear and push it up into the gear
until it fits tight. On models with a small white pin, first insert the pin through the
rubber coupling and then push both up into the gear until it fits tight. Check that
this is properly seated by spinning the fan with your hand. The teeth in the gear
should slowly move in and out.
Here's what is says about the disc stack not turning:
Problem: Disk stack not turning
Check that the rubber coupling is properly inserted into the bottom of the gear.
It also indicates that there is a 10 year limited warranty, if your unit is younger than 10 years you should probably call Venta at 1-888-333-8218 to inquire about service.
Comments:
Jun 02, 2008
- There is also some very detailed instuctions on removing and replacing the gear and bushing and on cleaning it thoroughly which is probably what you need done to get your machine running again.Here is what the manual has to say (without the pictures):
Servicing your Venta-Airwasher
Cleaning the gear
Do not submerse the gear in water. To clean any buildup of calcium or lime from the
gear “teeth”, brush with a soft bristled brush. The gear teeth should be pointed
toward the floor while brushing, otherwise deposits will fall into the gear and cause it
to malfunction.
Removal of gear and coupling
1 Switch the unit off (to ZERO position).
2 Unplug the power cord from the A/C outlet.
3 Remove the motor housing from the upper housing.
4 Remove the coupling from the gear by pushing the coupling down toward the fan and
away from the gear.
5 Pivot (turn) the gear 90 degrees so it is laying on its side.
6 Gently pull one of the two motor housing arms approximately 1/8 of an inch away from
the gear and remove the gear from the motor housing.
7 Remove the locking ring from the center shaft of the fan by prying it up using a small
screwdriver.
14
4 5
6 7
Replacement of gear and coupling
1 Place the rubber coupling into the locking ring so the rubber feet from the coupling
hang below the ring. When placing the coupling and ring on the center shaft of the
fan the rubber feet should line up with the notch marks on the fan.
2 Snap the ring and coupling into place.
3 With the gear laying on its side place it between the motor housing arms that
suspend it above the fan.
4 While placing the palms of your hands against the motor housing arms, apply slight
pressure, and pivot the gear to the operating (upright) position. Check that the
locking knob (flange) is properly seated. The locking knob, on either side of the
gear, should fit tightly behind the ridge of the motor housing suspension arm.
5 Insert the rubber coupling into the bottom of the gear and push it up into the gear
until it fits tight. On models with a small white pin, first insert the pin through the
rubber coupling and then push both up into the gear until it fits tight. Check that
this is properly seated by spinning the fan with your hand. The teeth in the gear
should slowly move in and out.
Solution #4
posted on May 28, 2008
Ok Rosemary...some of the information here is helpful.
What makes the wheels turn(unlinke Washington DC, where it's lobbyists)....are these..
motor inside driven by actuators(hard to check without tearing maching down almost to skeleton)
gears that interact with those mechanisms(can lock or bind, from wear or calcification)
loss of power to entire unit(from input cord).
so, with that, methinks that some of what you've seen here is fine. The real question I have for you, are you intending to tear this item apart?
Or are you the sort that likes to have a professional on hand for the messy efforts?
Let us know, and we may be able to either get you some repair assistance(did you check the repair listings here?)
or you may find that a schematic, a screwdriver, and a cold ale, will go a long way to making this work forya,
now..it's your turn. What's your pleasure, ma'am.
and thankya for using fixya
What makes the wheels turn(unlinke Washington DC, where it's lobbyists)....are these..
motor inside driven by actuators(hard to check without tearing maching down almost to skeleton)
gears that interact with those mechanisms(can lock or bind, from wear or calcification)
loss of power to entire unit(from input cord).
so, with that, methinks that some of what you've seen here is fine. The real question I have for you, are you intending to tear this item apart?
Or are you the sort that likes to have a professional on hand for the messy efforts?
Let us know, and we may be able to either get you some repair assistance(did you check the repair listings here?)
or you may find that a schematic, a screwdriver, and a cold ale, will go a long way to making this work forya,
now..it's your turn. What's your pleasure, ma'am.
and thankya for using fixya
Solution #7
posted on May 27, 2008
Hello,
Yes, you need to adjust the knob that controls the amount of maximum humidity the unit will saturate the air with. The unit may be pointed in a direction that isolates the ambient air surrounding it incorrectly. Move it so the air points to the center of the room with no obstacles in its way of airflow.
If it is in a location that aerates an entire room with no obstacles in its way and the air saturation control is set to its highest setting, then when the unit stops it is because the humidity in the area immediately surrounding the unit is saturated but areas distant from the device are not.
If you have a ceiling fan in the room, set it for upflow and then a low setting. This will help keep the air in the room circulating. Otherwise a small fan pointed at the ceiling somewhere will accomplish the same thing eventually. This mixing from a ceiling fan or small fan takes some time to get the air in the room at even saturation.
If you have tried all this, please comment back with the Maker and model as well as serial number if you can find it. Please include the date of purchase as well and if you purchased this wit a credit card as it may double your warranty period
Then, I'll be glad to assist you further. OK?
Regards,
Worldvet
Based on the myriad of responses you have heard and your now realizing your machine is not emitting any humidity because the wheels will not turn, you have two things plaguing your situation. Mineral build up on the bushing the wheels are mounted on and/or plastic gear teeth that have worn down and have caused the drive wheels to jam.
You can empty the unit of water and see if you can manage to turn the wheels yourself to break the jam, while being very careful of your hands and wearing gloves. Protect your hands from being pinched accidentally.
If the rods the wheels are mounted on have a lot of white crust on them you may have a frozen wheel due to the corrosion and they need to have the corrosion removed and be lubricated with the proper lubricant.
If you can move the wheels yourself and they appear unjammed you will want to lubricate the section where the rods pass through the wheels. The lubricant to use is rather specific to your machine and you should call the manufacturer for advice on which lubricant to use and should the teeth on the plastic wheels have worn down to the point they jam easy, you will need to seek professional service from a company who has the facility to remove the corrosion, replace any wheels that need it and lubricate the wheels properly.
Sorry, to be the bearer of bad news and sorry my first offer was off base and misunderstood. I would return it to the place of purchase and explain your problem. If they give you a stonewall to climb I would ask for a manager or supervisor. Then, you'll have to decide if the cost of repair outweighs the cost of replacement.
Thank you for using Fix Ya and I hope this information is more clear.
Regards,
Worldvet
Oh and by the way, there may simply be a set screw or bolt head that holds the drive wheel to the main motor drive rod. If you see one, turn the drive rod until you see a flat spot, position the main drive wheel over this and screw it won with a proper screwdriver to hex head which ever it is, if you don't know and this is the case describe it's look for me and I'll advise you.
Regards,
Worldvet
Yes, you need to adjust the knob that controls the amount of maximum humidity the unit will saturate the air with. The unit may be pointed in a direction that isolates the ambient air surrounding it incorrectly. Move it so the air points to the center of the room with no obstacles in its way of airflow.
If it is in a location that aerates an entire room with no obstacles in its way and the air saturation control is set to its highest setting, then when the unit stops it is because the humidity in the area immediately surrounding the unit is saturated but areas distant from the device are not.
If you have a ceiling fan in the room, set it for upflow and then a low setting. This will help keep the air in the room circulating. Otherwise a small fan pointed at the ceiling somewhere will accomplish the same thing eventually. This mixing from a ceiling fan or small fan takes some time to get the air in the room at even saturation.
If you have tried all this, please comment back with the Maker and model as well as serial number if you can find it. Please include the date of purchase as well and if you purchased this wit a credit card as it may double your warranty period
Then, I'll be glad to assist you further. OK?
Regards,
Worldvet
Comments:
May 28, 2008
- Hello,Based on the myriad of responses you have heard and your now realizing your machine is not emitting any humidity because the wheels will not turn, you have two things plaguing your situation. Mineral build up on the bushing the wheels are mounted on and/or plastic gear teeth that have worn down and have caused the drive wheels to jam.
You can empty the unit of water and see if you can manage to turn the wheels yourself to break the jam, while being very careful of your hands and wearing gloves. Protect your hands from being pinched accidentally.
If the rods the wheels are mounted on have a lot of white crust on them you may have a frozen wheel due to the corrosion and they need to have the corrosion removed and be lubricated with the proper lubricant.
If you can move the wheels yourself and they appear unjammed you will want to lubricate the section where the rods pass through the wheels. The lubricant to use is rather specific to your machine and you should call the manufacturer for advice on which lubricant to use and should the teeth on the plastic wheels have worn down to the point they jam easy, you will need to seek professional service from a company who has the facility to remove the corrosion, replace any wheels that need it and lubricate the wheels properly.
Sorry, to be the bearer of bad news and sorry my first offer was off base and misunderstood. I would return it to the place of purchase and explain your problem. If they give you a stonewall to climb I would ask for a manager or supervisor. Then, you'll have to decide if the cost of repair outweighs the cost of replacement.
Thank you for using Fix Ya and I hope this information is more clear.
Regards,
Worldvet
May 28, 2008
- Hello,Oh and by the way, there may simply be a set screw or bolt head that holds the drive wheel to the main motor drive rod. If you see one, turn the drive rod until you see a flat spot, position the main drive wheel over this and screw it won with a proper screwdriver to hex head which ever it is, if you don't know and this is the case describe it's look for me and I'll advise you.
Regards,
Worldvet
Solution #8
posted on May 27, 2008
If you have used it for a long time then minerals in the water may have built up somewhere and now needs to be removed wither by cycling a cleaner of some sort or physically scrubbing the moving parts yourself.
The first ting to try is unplug the machine, remove all the filters, and try cleaning with vinegar. Smells bad I know but following up by cleaning with a regular detergent should remove the smell. Detergent alone will not break up the calcium, the acid in the vinegar does that.
Next we need to find out what gears may have slipped or if there is a belt out of place. If everything mechanical is in working order then the cam from the motor to the rest of the unit may be shucked in which case it would depend on where it is broken to determine the best repair. Please, if you could as some problems like this are not always simple, take a look at your particular unit and provide me with some further description of what is going on.
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